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Barack Obama's Kashmir thesis!

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C. Raja Mohan

Posted: Nov 03, 2008 at 1431 hrs IST
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Singapore, November 3: As Obamamania grips much of the world, including India, the man who might become the next President of the United States has ideas on Jammu and Kashmir that should cause some concern to New Delhi.

Given its vastly improved relations with the United States and Pakistan, India has no reason to press the panic button. Yet it should be quickly flagging its concerns with the foreign policy team of Senator Barack Obama, should he be declared the Forty-fourth President of the United States on Tuesday night.

In an interview broadcast on MSNBC, Obama suggested that his administration would encourage India to solve the Kashmir dispute with Pakistan, so that Islamabad can better cooperate with the United States on Afghanistan. Obama’s definitive thesis comes in three parts.

“The most important thing we’re going to have to do with respect to Afghanistan is actually deal with Pakistan. And we’ve got to work with the newly elected government there (Pakistan) in a coherent way that says, terrorism is now a threat to you. Extremism is a threat to you. We should — try to resolve the Kashmir crisis so that they (Pakistan) can stay focused not on India, but on the situation with those militants”. India entirely agrees with the first two elements but should strongly object to the third.

Put simply, the Obama thesis says: the sources of Afghan instability are in Pakistan; those in turn are linked to Islamabad’s conflict with New Delhi, at the heart of which is Jammu and Kashmir.

For months now, New Delhi has been assessing Obama’s seeming hard-line towards Pakistan, including a threat to bomb terrorist bases there if Islamabad failed to act against the al-Qaida and the Taliban. India, however, has paid less attention to the carrot

Obama was offering Pakistan—American activism on Kashmir in return for credible cooperation in Afghanistan.

Obama’s remarks on Kashmir are by no means off the cuff. They have been remarkably consistent since he launched his presidential campaign. In the first comprehensive articulation of his world view in the journal Foreign Affairs during the summer of 2007, Obama argued, “If Pakistan can look towards the east (India) with confidence, it will be less likely to believe its interests are best advanced through cooperation with the Taliban.”

If Obama’s Kashmir thesis becomes the policy, many negative consequences might ensue. For one, an American diplomatic intervention in Kashmir will make it impossible for India to pursue the current serious back channel negotiations with Pakistan on Kashmir, the first since 1962-63.

India and Pakistan have made progress in recent years, because their negotiations have taken place in a bilateral context. Third party involvement will rapidly shrink the domestic political space for India on Kashmir negotiations.

For another, the prospect that the U S might offer incentives on Kashmir is bound to encourage the Pakistan Army to harden its stance against the current peace process with India.

Finally, the sense that an Obama Administration will put Jammu & Kashmir on the front burner would give a fresh boost to militancy in Kashmir and complicate the current sensitive electoral process there. Kashmiri separatist lobbies in Washington have already embraced Obama’s remarks.

To be sure, Indo-U S relations are much stronger today to suggest a return to the discordant early 1990s, when Kashmir topped the bilateral agenda. Yet, New Delhi cannot ignore that Pakistan is likely to be at the very top of a President Obama’s national security agenda and his perception of a linkage between Kashmir and Afghanistan.

India’s chattering classes may be carried away by Obama’s talk of ‘change’ in Washington. On Kashmir at least, India badly needs ‘continuity’ with President George W Bush’s deliberate hands-off approach.

Although his historic civil nuclear initiative got all the attention, President Bush’s Kashmir policy has contributed even more significantly to the transformation of Indo-U S relations.

Despite relentless pressures from Gen. Pervez Musharraf, Bush refused to inject the U S into the Indo-Pak conflict. By ending the traditional American meddling in Kashmir, Bush created the conditions for purposeful bilateral negotiations between New Delhi and Islamabad. India would not want Obama to disrupt this positive dynamic in the subcontinent.

India does not disagree with Obama that a Pakistan secure within its own borders is good for the whole region. That indeed is the basis on which Prime Minister Manmohan Singh and his predecessor Atal Bihari Vajpayee explored solutions to the Kashmir dispute on a bilateral basis.

India’s problem with the Obama thesis is in the simplistic trade-off it sets up between Kashmir and Afghanistan. More than seven years after 9/11, Washington has begun to understand that the source of the problem in both Kashmir and Afghanistan is the Pak Army and its instrumentalisation of extremism to achieve political objectives.

Ending the Army’s right to define Isalamabad’s national security goals would make it a lot easier to resolve Pakistan’s disputes with both India and Afghanistan. That in turn would demand Indo-U S cooperation in accelerating Pakistan’s democratic transition by establishing firm civilian control over the military.

(C. Raja Mohan is a Professor at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, Nanyang Technological University and a Contributing Editor of The Indian Express.)

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Who says Nehru Messed-up Kashmir Issue? by ABC on 27 Oct 2009

Nehru went to UN after fighting for 14 months (Oct 47 - Dec 48). The war was a stalemate and Nehru cleared Pakis from all the strategic/civilized areas. Those of you that think Nehru should have occupied rest of POK, ask your selves these questions! Why didn't Shastry drive them out in 1965? Why didn't Vajpayee drive them out in 1999? Indira Gandhi occupied Kargil and some other strategic peaks in Ladakh 1971. Even she chose to ignore Muzafarabad/Gilgit/Baltistan. There is only one explanation. It is not worth occupying Muzafarabad/Gilgit/Baltistan. Officially, India still claims POK just as a bargain chip - Just like China claims Arunachal but know will never get. If we really wanted it, Nehru would have occupied it in 1948. He waited for 14 months. He could have waited for few more weeks it were that important and achievable. Stop Nehru bashing. Use your brain. Don't just regurgitate what your hear from folklore!!! India will jump at converting LOC into Int. Border.

Obama is having nightmares !!! by Shalendra on 26 Oct 2009

I am sure the vision of body bags of US soldiers is haunting obama , giving him nightmares, he will soon squeeze himself out of pak afghan imbroglio soon.Senator Kerry and others are opposing more troop induction,Obama is a dreamer and Obama is as good as his speech writers make him,they got him the noble award but Kashmir is altogether a different ballgame

Obamas plan by sks on 26 Oct 2009

I THINK US PREZ HAS NO BUSINESS INTERFERING IN OTHERS INTERNAL ISSUES..

Kashmir by Bhaskar Kolnad on 26 Oct 2009

Part of Kashmir which was invaded by Pakistani tribals before Maharajah of Kashmir signed the accession treaty with India in 1948,we should have driven them out soon after .Our great leader Nehru just messed it up by going for ceasefire and then going to UN.Our first job was to kick them out of this Kashmir.Nehru was only interested in becoming the nations Prime Minister even at the cost of first agreeing for partition and then later leaving part Kashmir in Pakistan's hand for us to bleed after he left the scene.Unfortunately we still have even after 60 years his family claiming to be rightful heirs to the country's top job..We still have many leaders in the country working with the same goal.We had Indira Gandhi,then Rajiv and now Rahul BabaGod free us.

to give freedom in kashmir by adil on 02 Oct 2009

its time to give freedom from india

india should condemn!! by varun on 21 Jan 2009

india should condemn us prez views over kashmir!!he is giving a licence to pakistan for ensuing militancy in kashmir.kashmir it should be understood is one of issues between two neighbours not core of evrythg!

meadiators are not allowed by CHIRAG KANDWAL on 21 Jan 2009

respected sirobama shows his interest and may pressuerise pak to some extend is acceptable but if starts poking his nose and starts mediating as pak wants which is a really sensitive issue for india is undesirable and unacceptable.

Response to Jessica by Jia on 19 Jan 2009

hey, itz always good to stay quiet wen u know nothing!!!

Nehru on Kashmir by hafeez ul hassan on 09 Jan 2009

dear sir problem is not of US intervention on the issue,problem really is of realisation.u just believe that it is ur part,without giving kashmiries thier right of self determination.this right is not only according UN resolutions but ur great leader JAWAHER LAL NEHRU as well given them.he wanted to resolve it becoz he new after him it will be hurdle between IND and PAK relations and region will fall in deep deep darkness of mistrust and ever fighting.

is it right that Mr Obama interfere in kashmir issue by ruchi aggarwal on 02 Jan 2009

according 2 me mr obama should not interfere in kashmir issue since 3rd party invovlement could create present condition even more worse.indians Prime minister Mr Manmohan singh should use some tricks in order to resolve kashmir issue.it should be handled in such a manner that it would not hurt the sentiments of anyone either of indians or pakistani nationals.

electricity damand forecasting by abdo on 24 Nov 2008

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Kashmir India Pakistan by Jessica on 10 Dec 2008

ok pakistanis are all muslins and they hate us india people india should be part of kashmir because pakistan thinks they can just fight there wait out of things and they cant they need to talk to the govermont or something figure something out or they can both be apart of kashmir i dont know

@ jessica by Jia on 19 Jan 2009

Dear Jessica:better not to speak wen u kno nothing!!!

Kashmir by Hassan on 13 Nov 2008

I am not here to cause trouble. The UN mandate says there should be a plebiscite- that's to Vishal. I visited India and loved your country and your people. Your politicians do what's in the best interests of your people. BUT the Kashmiris deserve better. No human rights abuses like in the Valley.Vishal, Kashmir is meant to have a referendum according to the UN mandate. So the argument about kerala and hyderabad is stupid!!

Kashmir by Swapan Chakravarthy on 27 Nov 2008

Plebiscite a mandated by UN is for entire Kashmir after a period of rule under India. The last aspect is missed by debaters creating a false and a half-baked discussion. For declining to adhere to that requirement, Pakistan has been demarched by UN.

who cares for UN ? by vishal on 17 Nov 2008

UN said ..let there be plebiscite ..so there should be plebiscite..and whose daddy is UN ? Certainly not Indias. Just because UN says something doesn't mean India is going to amputate its head and serve it to you maruders on a platter. Besides Clause number 1 of the UN resolution was that Pakistan would withdraw all it's forces from Kashmir. Did that ever happen ? No ! So clause 2 need not happen either. Also , did the UN resolution take intot account that Pakistan would forcibly occupy 50 % of kashmir and make it POK ? Certainly not. So forget about UN plebiscite. Things have changed now. The only solution going forward is - change of LOC to international border or else ...a war that will wipe out pakistan and kashmir and send india back to stone age.

ENJOY! by Varun on 12 Nov 2008

Manmohan Singh was right. Bush was a great friend of India and we vocally joined in denouncing him. Watch now, when Obama with his liberal ideals and ill-defined real-world knowledge begins to start imposing pressure on things we are unwilling to compromise on. Because the US is in a quagmire in Afghanistan, suddenly we should start talking to Pakistan about Kashmir?? What about the nuclear deal? Certainly Obama shows few signs that he regards India as crucial to emerging US alliances? He seems more interested in talking to China. He seems more interested in forging peace in Pakistan. All those things require India to be neutered. Enjoy when the chickens come home to roost.

INDIA FINALLY CORNERED by N. JAVED on 12 Nov 2008

LIKE IT OR NOT, THE ISSUE INDIA HAS BEEN TRYING TO WISH AWAY, SHELVE AWAY OR SWEEP UNDER THE RUG HOPING THAT IT WILL EVENTIALLY DISAPPEAR OF ITS OWN VOLITION AND FORGOTTEN HAS NOW COME FULL CIRCLE. EVERYBODY AND THEIR UNCLE ARE SOUNDING THE SAME CHORUS. ANY OTHER EXCUSES NOW MAHRAJ? OR SHOULD WE, AT LONG LAST LET THE ENTIRE REGION MOVE FORWARD FOR A CHANGE SO THAT EVERYONE, INCLUDING YOU WOULD HAVE SOME ECONOMIC P.O.M? OTHERWISE, I HOPE YOU KNOWS THAT PAK WILL KEEP THE KETTLE ON YOUR FIRE AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU WILL BE ABLE TO DO ABOUT IT, IRRESPECTIVE OF THE HUFFING, PUFFING AND HYSTERICAL BLUFFING RETREAT (2002)

utter nonsense by vishal on 11 Nov 2008

What is this nonsense about giving kashmir to pakistan just because it is full of muslims. If tomorrow California wants to seccede to Mexico becasue it is full of Mexicans will USA allow it ? Why not ? If "people's right for self determination" can apply to Kashmir it should apply to california also. Fact is that this was all India. Not from yesterday not from 100 years ago but since thousands and thousands of years all these territories were indian. In 1947 the muslims took parts of OUR land to make Pakistan. The british gave it to them. Well it was not theirs to give in the first place. So that itself is illegle. Now just because there are lots of muslims in kashmir you want us to give kashmir to pakistanis too ? Where does it stop ? Will you be asking for Kerala and Hyderabad next ? Because the muslim population is exploding there too. Will pakistan ask for WB next as the illegle bangladeshis inflate the muslim population there ? WTF ?

VISION by abdul hafeez ul hassan on 09 Jan 2009

YES TO ALL UR SUGGESTIONS.UR TALKING ABOUT DARK AGES WHEN RELIGION WAS ON TO FROM EVERY THING,WHAT EVER IT MIGHT BE.DAER ABOUT WHEN THIER WAS NO CONCEPT OF STATE,WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST MAN WHO CAME ON THE WORLED MUSLIM NAME ADAM DUE TO WHICH U IN HINDI CALL EACH OTHER ADMI.WE MUSLIMS ARE REALISTIC,SO SHOULD WE CLAIM ABOUT WHOLE OF THE WORLD.DEAR POINT IS UR COUTRY IS BROADMINDED IN DRESSES BUT NEEDED TO BE BROADEN ON OTHER ASPECTS OF LIFE.MUSLIM IN THIS REGION NOT CAME FROM ANY WHERE BUT HINDUS TURNED TO ISLAM.SO,THEY HAV THIER PERCENTAGE RIGHTS ON EQUALITY BASIS ON INDIA.

Obama and Kashmir by IndianAbroad on 10 Nov 2008

President Obama is likely to sympathize with Kashmiri struggle for independce from Pakistan and India. Expect pressure on both Pakistan and India for a solution that favors the oppressed Kashmiris, not Pakistan or India.Obama in his youth visited Pakistan and had Pakistani friends. He is the most Kashmir informed of all the past US Presidents.

'"kASHMIR " by bishop on 09 Nov 2008

WELL WE IN INDIA KNOW TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS WELL .WHY DOES THE AMERICAN'S ALWAYS WANT TO POKE THEIR NOSE IN OTHER'S PROBLEMS . WHEREVER THEY HAVE INTERFERED .... ALWAYS IT AS BACKFIRED FOR THEM IN SAME WAY OR ANOTHER . I THINK WE HAVE BETTER PEOPLE HERE IN INDIA TO SOLVE OUR PROBLEMS . LEAVE ALONE "KASHMIR " AND TRY SOLVING THE PRESENT ECONOMIC CRISIS THAT YOUR PEOPLE ARE FACING INSTEAD OF POKING YOUR NOSE IN OTHER'S AFFAIRS.

stop quoting the campaign obama by sdn on 07 Nov 2008

This statement was made during the presidential campaign not after the presidency, Obama has been elected for 2 days now, find me a quote within the last 48 hours where he said anything about India or Pakistan.You should really focus on what he does after the election and not something he said on a interview during the campaign which is totally irrelevant and trying to prove a point where there is nothing to be proven.

Ultimate PM by Raj on 06 Nov 2008

Obama's statement on kashmir is really shocking,firstly he needs to look into his country's crubling economy. India has a Prime Minister above that a Super Prime Minister now this guy want's be the ULTIMATE Prime Minister.

1 by abb on 06 Nov 2008

In the Cold war Period US tried to Push India in the Kashmir Issue...didnt Work! and trying seperate Kashmir from India will make another Afganistan

Obama on Kashmir by Professor N.Sanajaoba on 06 Nov 2008

Obama,India,Pakistan can solve Kashmir self-determination issue either [a] by holding international negotiation with all parties including Kashmiri freedom fighters[b] by holding plebiscite under UN supervision as it had been done in East Timor in 1999;or[c] by direct UN intervention with USA's support.If the Kashmiris want to be in India, they have to be there.There is a dispute which can be resolved only on the basis of the consent of the governed.It is possible.

GREAT OBAMA , GO AHEAD by ekata on 05 Nov 2008

GREAT OBAMA , HE IS REAL HERO OF THE PEOPLE OF THE CLASS WHO ARE OPPRESSED AND DEPREED AND DEFINITELY HE WILL SOLVE THE KASMIR PROBLEM . THOSE WILL WORY WHO CREATED THE PROBLEM FOR THEIR SHAKE AND DIRTY POLITICS MAKING IT A NATIONAL ISSUE FOR THEIR BENIFIT. IF THERE IS SOMEONE FROM SUCH COMMUNITY IN INDIAN SIDE THIS PROBLEM COULD BE SOLVED MUCH EARLIEAR. BEST LUCK OBAMA . GO AHEAD. U R THE LEADER OF ALL POOR PEOPLE OF THE WOLRD

No Outsourcing, Anti Kashmir by sam33 on 05 Nov 2008

No Outsourcing, Anti Kashmir. Common, you can be our friend or our enemy. Take care of your own problems than poking nose in others problem. Iraq wants u to leave their country. Everybody knows Kashmir is integral part of India from independence. Why don’t you talk about Tibet and its independence? India need attitude like china.

Barack Obama's Kashmir thesis! by KN Shivakumar on 04 Nov 2008

This is no surprise at all, for any Democratic presidential candidate. Only during the past decade Republican administration in US has tried to come a bit closer to India on geo-political strategic matters. Hence, History has proved that both Democarts

Obama, like you, we like our country by Rags on 04 Nov 2008

Obama, like you, we the Indians are much interested and worried about our country issues. To solve your country issue, you cannot help third country to disturb our country.

KASHMIR ISSUE by MANISH on 04 Nov 2008

KASHMIR IS THE HEAD OF INDIA.IT IS THE SYMBOL OF SECULARISM IN INDIA.WITHOUT KASHMIR INDIA WOULD BE THEROCRATIC STATE.EVEN IF KASHMIR VALLEY IS MUSLIM MAJORITY THE AREAS OF JAMMU AND LADAKH ARE HINDUA ND BUDDHIST MAJORITY.UNITED INDIA IS ONLY THE FUTURE OF KASHMIR.THE HURRIYAT LEADERS SHOULD KNOW THAT WITHOUT INDIA THEY HAVE NO FUTURE.THE INDIAN GOVT HAS DONE IN KASHMIR WHAT NO OTHER GOVT COULD HAVE DONE.THE LOC SHOULD BE MADE PERMANENT AND INTERNATION BORDER BETWEEN PAKISTAN AND INDIA.THE BORDER SHOULD BE STRENGTHENED .THE PAKISTAN SHOULD GET THE AREAS OF KASHMIR WHICH IT HAS ACCEEDED TO IT.AND INDIA SHOULD GET THE PORTIONS WHICH INDIA HAVE ACCEEDED.WITHOUT INDIA KASHMIR HAS NO FUTURE.THE CALL OF INDEPENDENCE BY THE HURRIYAT IS UNDER DURESS FOM THE EXTREMISTS.THEY ALSO KNOW VERY WELL THAT THEY HAVE NO FUTURE.PAKISATN AND INDIA ARE WELLAWARE TAHT THEY WOULDNOT AFFORD INDEPENDENCE TO KASHMIR.GIVING INDEPENDENCE TO KASHMIR MEANS CREATING ANOTHER TERRORISTS HAVEN IN THE NEIGHBOUR.

bound to happen by abdul hafeez ul hassan on 09 Jan 2009

YES WHAT U HAV DONE IN KASHMIR NO ONE CAN DO,U HAV KILLED 80,OOO MUSLIMS THIER.KASHMIR CAN NOT WASH THE BLOOD ON UR SO CALLED SECULAR FLAG.WHAT U HAV DONE IN GUJRAT,ASAM,GHARRKHAND,SAMJGOTA EXPRESS,MALIGAON,MANIPUR,KERALA, NAGALAND AND SO MANY OTHER PLACES.OPEN UR EYES AND SEE ON HURRIYAT CALL MORE THAN AMILLION PEPLE MARCHED TOWARDS PAKISTAN.

KASHMIR IS KASHMIR NOT INDIA by shahid on 05 Nov 2008

KASHMIRI PEOPLE HAVE NEVER ENDORSED THIS UGLY FACT THAT KASHMIR HAS EVER BEEN THE PART OF INDIA.IF U STILL ASK ANYBODY IN KASHMIR i,e WHERE R U GOING mumbai ,delhi OR SOMEWHERE ELSE THEY WILL SIMPLY REPLY "INDIA".IF INDIA DOES NOT QUITE KASHMIR AS OF NOW AND KEEP KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE AS USUAL ,THEN NOT VERY FAR INDIA WILL NOT BE ON THE MAP AS INDIA BUT WILL ENDURE SAME FATE SO HAD RUSSIA,MANY MORE PAKISTANS WILL EMERGE FROM INDIA.SO FAR BETTERMENT AND SAKE OF INDIA KASHMIR HAS TO BE AN INDEPENDENT SATE LIKE INDIA

what are you talking abt shahid ? by vishal on 10 Nov 2008

It was all india. Just because your maruding ancestors invaded india from middle east and multiplied like rabbits to inflate muslim population in areas that have for century been indian does not mean that suddenly they are not part of india anymore ? Tomorrow if all the jehadis breeding in jama masjid overtake the hindu population in Delhi will you start claiming that Delhi too has never been part of India ? moron ! we already gave you a large tract of our land to make your precious pakistan now F-Off and stay off. You are not getting one more inch of land from India.

KASHMIR IS KASHMIR AND PART OF INDIA by xyz on 06 Nov 2008

please make sure, rest any state in India, kashmir too is part of India.. Greed of occupying and making and Independent state is no answer. Any child without mother has "NO VALUE" KASHMIR IS A PART OF INDIA. AND WILL BE PART OF INDIA. YOU CANNOT SEPARATE A CHILD FROM MOTHER. MIND IT AND SET IN YOUR SYSTEMS.

Kashmir issss Kashmir by abdul hafeez ul hassan on 09 Jan 2009

i never before heared that Bharatmata is pregnent,division geographical or religious basis is the new world order.on geographical basis all its ways opens towards Pakistan except one British provided u to invade Kashmir,all rivers in Kashmir flows towards Pakistan.on religious basis it is a muslim majority area.most importantly they want freedom from u,to avoid BJP,RSS,VHP and other hindu terrorist groups.

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