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Posted online: Saturday , January 12, 2008 at 09:22:27


New Delhi, January 12: Ahead of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh's visit to China, India has said that the Chinese army "sometimes" does intrude on its territory but the issues are addressed through established mechanisms.

It also hinted its backing to Sri Lankan army's action against Tamil Tigers saying any country is free to take action against terrorists within its legal system.

"Sometimes the incursions take place. Every incursion is taken care of. It's being addressed through the established mechanism," External Affairs Minister Pranab Mukherjee was quoted as saying in an interview.

He said there was nothing to worry about the incursions as the mechanisms established by India and China to deal with such issues "are doing well".

Mukherjee, however, admitted that the infrastructure development on the Chinese side of the border is "much superior to that on our side."

"... Their infrastructure in terms of road, electricity and availability of other facilities is much superior to that on our side. It is a known fact. That is why we have decided that we should also build up the roads and other types of infrastructural facilities," he said.

On reported concerns expressed by senior Army officers on facilities on the Chinese side, Mukherjee said, "There is no question of letting down our vigilance and alertness."

On the developments in Pakistan, the minister said he had "tremendous faith" in the resilience of the Pakistani people to manage their crisis.

Asked whether he believed President Pervez Musharraf faced the danger of being removed by the army, Mukherjee said there was an element of unpredictability.

"Only future can show what course of action will be taken by the establishment or the people of Pakistan. It is not predictable... an element of unpredictability is there but I can't say the situation will turn around in a positive manner," he said.

The minister sidestepped a query on whether he saw Musharraf as part of the solution or the problem. "We ought to deal with whoever is in office in Pakistan. Therefore we do not make any value judgement of any individual," he said.

Dubbing the Tamil Tigers as "terrorists", Mukherjee hinted at support to the Lankan army's action against them.

"Of late the clashes between Sri Lankan forces and LTTE terrorists have increased. So far as terrorism is concerned, our position is that of zero tolerance. So any country that takes action against terrorists are free to do so within their legal system," he said.

On Sri Lanka's decision to abrogate the Ceasefire Agreement with the LTTE, Mukherjee said, "We shall have to see what impact it has."

However, he said India wanted the Lankan government to pursue efforts to fulfill the legitimate aspirations of ethnic Tamil minorities within that country's political framework.

Mukherjee said no decision has been taken on the visit of Prime Minister Manmohan Singh to Colombo to participate in the island nation's 60th Independence Day celebrations but made it clear that he will participate in the SAARC summit scheduled to be held there later this year.

Mukherjee said he would not link the possibility of increased infiltration of terrorists in Jammu and Kashmir to the internal turmoil in Pakistan.

"...Let us not link it (infiltration) with the turmoil in the country because terrorist activity from the other side of the border has never completely stopped," he said.

Sometimes the number of infiltrations increases, sometimes it decreases. "Therefore our advice to security forces has always been be on alert and maintain your vigil," Mukherjee said.

He said India decided against sending a delegation to attend the burial of slain leader Benazir Bhutto because it did not want to "embarrass" Pakistani authorities.

Mukherjee said the Indian mission in Islamabad was in touch with other missions from various countries who were keen to send delegations for Bhutto's funeral.

"We were all advised not to come ... in this hour of difficulty we did not want to embarrass the (Pakistani) authorities and we listened to their advice," he said.

Mukherjee dismissed suggestions that the Congress was worried about the rise of Gujarat Chief Minister Narendra Modi, who recently pulled off a spectacular electoral win in the assembly elections.

"There is nothing to be worried by the rise of any individual or even by the success of a political party because I have seen that political parties come and go," he said.

Mukherjee refused to comment on politics of Modi saying "when the people of Gujarat have expressed confidence in him as Chief Minister we have to accept it. It is as simple as that."

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CHINESE FLAG ON NEW DELHI, NOT TOO FAR ! by HEMU on 14 Jan 2008

Oneday Chinese army will intrude into New Delhi. Italian Sonia will flee to Italy, and all her CHAMCHAS will follow her. But I am sure Italian govt will not allow these jokers and spineless puppets to enter their country !

Nehru- SARROW OF INDIA by Subbadasu on 13 Jan 2008

A government whose oxigen depends on the leftist parties cannot do any favour to India.Congress is influensed by inefficient idealogy of Jawaharlal Nehru. ( Out of five wars India lost land twice, in these two times Nehru was P.M. After independance also Nehru did not try to negotiate with the countries of Indian subcontinent (like Nepal , srilanka etc) to make the part of India. he thought more about retaining of his and his family members power. He took more than 14 years for Goa merger. On the other side Patel successfully made morethan 540 princelays part of India.Funny thing is Nehru got Bharat ratna ( not given to Patel first). Nehru is the person for under devolopment of India with his dirty economic policies . With his policies he got good name for himself and provided power to his family.KR Narayanan in his visit to china , in a university spoke about the damage made by Nehru to India in UNO. A party which follows the principles of SARROW OF INDIA (Nehru) can not do any good to India except power politics.

Indian leaders by Anjan on 14 Jan 2008

I agree 100% with Mr Subbadasu. But Nehru is not the only culprit. There was a big team behind him, including so called nations father M.K Gandhi. Before leaving India, British rulers created a strong team, pseudo patriots. These people did harm to India more than British couls do in 150 years. Nehru was there face, representative. Unfortunately till today they are partly controlling the country.

Chinese intrusions--- by romesh.sharma on 13 Jan 2008

Shameless is this minister and so is this reporter who says "Admits India and not Admits UPA".BJP/NDA had rather time and again reckoned and warned but furnished the authentic evidences of Chinese intrusions on LAC especially in Arunachal region.This tactical admittance is to cover the possible negative response to PM's eventuell request/demand for recess in Chinese intrusions and threats of claiming part of this territory.Fears of non-cooperative action makes them admit so that they have some excuse to defend their inaction and failing diplomacy.Fifty years long they have Congress (now UPA) has cheated the people and had worked with weakest diplomacy/foreign policy.Congress was fully engaged/concerned/bothered only to keep power and rule irrespective how the Nation and national suffered and degraded.Mukherji says there was nothing to worry and that they have some mechanism to protect Indian interests which is habtual act of levity.Instead of using agressive and direct approach he is just waving off the seriousness of the conflict.How long Congress is going to keep it hanging?How many generations are to be left with this uncertainty? He should be well aware that its not only on the border area where Chinese have better infrastructure but they are far ahead and better developed than India.Chinese use less words but keep on action constantly while on our side its only words that too aimed at vote-bank and retaining power.To draw permanent border lines India has to make Pakistan and China clear that this can't go on forever.India has to give some and take some is also true but this must have an immidiate end.

what is the UPA government doing? by sonam on 13 Jan 2008

What a shameless foreign minister India has. The government knows the chinese incursion but does not consider it of any great importance. A rogue nation like China will do anything to grab land from its neighbouring countries. It swallowed Tibet in 1959. India must learn its lessons from the backstabber neighbour.

Chinese Intrusion by dilip/hyderabad on 13 Jan 2008

Wow ,our senior most minister says that intrusions do take place as if it is normal practise,no wonder INDIA is regarded as asoft state .this comes after so many denials that even intrusions were taking place.Can we intrude into china like they do ? no way .No party will take up these things as an election issue even though these are matters of national in interest

China should be taught a lesson by Mrs Chaarulata on 13 Jan 2008

Military is the last hope to keep integrity of our motherland. We have to deal with our arch enemies China and Pakistan externally and regionalistic buffoons like Thackerays, ULFA, Karunanidhi, Akalis,SP,RJD,Commies like anti-nationals internally. The current UPA government is more worried for islamism and minorytism than national security and defense preparedness. All political parties are eyeing for 19-39% muslim votes to grab power in states and center. It is almost 10 years and India is not able to finalise deal for purchasing 126 5th generation fighter jets. Our number of squadrons has depleted too much and has come lowest in last 30 years. China already grabbed Tibbet and Aksai Chin in Kashmir and India could not protest due to fear and scare. We should not forget whatever differencce in size exist between Pakistan and India, it is same between India and China. But Pakistan is giving sleepless nights to India and we can't dare to cross Pakistan's border. China is crossing our borders every week and claiming half of India giving reasons that thousand years ago these were chinese territories. We lack nuclear submarines and ICBM missile interceptors. India could have ordered 126 aircraft bifurcating with Russia, America and Europe because Russia is not able to deliver any weapons in timely manner but we can't annoy it because it is a trusted friend of India. At the same time we want fighters immediately and America, Europe can provide us. Rogue china is the most dangerous country in the world. India should also claim that Beijing and Shanghai were part of India thousands of years ago.

It is high time we take back our Tibet and Aksai Chin by Mrs Chaarulata on 13 Jan 2008

Military is the last hopes to keep integrity of our motherland. We have to deal with our arch enemies China and Pakistan externally and Thackerays, ULFA, Karunanidhi, Akalis, Commies like anti-nationals internally. The current UPA government is more worried for islamism and minorytism than national security and defense preparedness. All political parties are eyeing for 19-39% muslim votes to grab power in states and center. It is almost 10 years and India is not able to finalise deal for purchasing 126 5th generation fighter jets. Our number of squadrons has depleted too much and has come lowest in last 30 years. China already grabbed Tibbet and Aksai Chin in Kashmir and India could not protest due to fear and scare. We should not forget whatever differencce in size exist between Pakistan and India, it is same between India and China. But Pakistan is giving sleepness nights to India and we can't dare to cross Pakistan's border. China is crossing our borders every week and claiming half of India giving reasons that thousand years ago these were chinese territories. We lack nuclear submarines and ICBM missile interceptors. India could have ordered 126 aircraft bifurcating with Russia, America and Europe because Russia is not able to deliver any weapons in timely manner but we can't annoy it because it is a trusted friend of India. At the same time we want fighters immediately and America, Europe can provide us. Last but not least our engineers could have got opportunity to learn fighter jets technologies from leader countries.

ARE WE A SELF RESPECTING NATION! by ramesh kumar on 13 Jan 2008

DO we have any dignity,Mr.MUKHERJEE? We can be slapped as and when others like?Be it CHINA or PAKISTAN!Will you answer nation why we donot have good infrastructure on our side of border?WHY ARE YOU IN POWER IF YOU CAN NOT DEFEND OUR BORDERS?CONGRESS IS REPEATING ITS OWN HISTORY!REMEMBER 1962 AND BM KAUL!

Idiot's don't learn. by Dr.G.G.Rajan on 13 Jan 2008

'Hindi Chine bai-bai'.Nehru. Chinese swallowed about 15000 sq km of India's territory.With our learned PM's approach

Weakest defence minister by Rohan on 12 Jan 2008

Is he not ashamed of telling it, being the defence minister? It seemed that this arrangement(UPA) at the center is even happy to compromise with the security of the country. They can even sell the country to be in power. God save the country from these vultures.

THIS STUFFLESS IS INTERESTED IN COVERSIONS. by Joseph Chako on 13 Jan 2008

The present defence minister has no personality and efficiency. He is more interested in CHURCH WORK.

Kill the intruders by Seema on 12 Jan 2008

I second BJP on this, sovereignty of India should be saved at all cost.

We should attack China and finish its economy by Mrs Chaarulata on 12 Jan 2008

It is a matter of shame that UPA leaders were lying in the parliament for years saying there were no incursion on chinese borders. BSF chief reported 140 chinese attacks in 2006 alone.All our PMs are scared with China. During kargil india could not attack Pakistan thinking that India will lose more if war happens as foreign investors will leave the country. Same logic should work with China now as China attracts 250 times more investment than India. We should claim Beijing and Shanghai saying that they were parts of India thousand years ago. We should attack China and finish its economy.

WE CAN NEVER SACRIFICE FOR DIGNITY. by Member of Cowards. on 13 Jan 2008

a people not ready to sacrifice, can not fight and therefore can not expect to be respected. Just exist on the goodwill of others. Han mahammed bhai, a aap to baade acchey hai, Hai micheal bhai aap to baade acchey hai, han Chou mou bhai, aap to baade acchey ha. Hum to sekullarist hai, non violent hai...heheheh.ee

intrusions by Sri on 12 Jan 2008

One wonders how could a minister lie in parliament and in the press about defense matters? Now after several months, intrusion is accepted. 'Every inch of land will be protected' is often said in parliament. Now the established mechanisms will take care of the intrusions. Is it true for borders with PAK too?

Chinese incursion by Varinder Sarin on 12 Jan 2008

Intrusion of China into Indian Territory is nothing new as back stabber can't change his habit. As far rise of Modi or BJP, the more you try to hurl abuses and insult on BJP and Modi unnecessarily to appease vote bannk and bogus NGOs, the BJP supporters will become more vigour and enthusiastic.

Inexplicable rise of Modi, will soon bring about tectonic shift in Indian politics.Modi is Messianic. by DILIP/FRANCE on 12 Jan 2008

After months of barefaced denial,finally the truth is spoken.ongress and their chamchas are loosing thier credibility and trust,as they constantly resort to spin,decits and sounbites, to cover their arse.Fact is China,only respect strength, as long as India,flip flops and lags behind China,India will always be treated with disdain as a Junbiour partner, in the theatre of Asian geopolitics.India has to start building its economic and military strength, with urgency at attain level of parity,with China.That is why India needs Modi as its P.M.a no nonsence and a formidable leader.This is the conundrum the Congress party is facing, whether they admit or not.The slow and grinding rise and elevation of Modi,has began to send shivers down Congress's spine. Modi's juggernaut is gathering space and its crowing glory day's are not that far off. We challenge the Congress and their cohorts,the jihadist and the autocrat Communists, to call a General election, so that the electorates get the opportunity to boot them out of power.

WANNA TOUR.... GO TO SWISS NOT CHINA by Girish Bhardwaj on 12 Jan 2008

No NO NO "HINDI CHINI BHAI BHAI" say again we will give another piece of Land. You never INTRUDED India But by mistake our FOOL SOLDIERS were fetup of thier wives that they comitted suisides when they listen this. Sir you are again FREE to attack us because we are pack of fools ruling fools OK. Mr. PM say this to China because you want to change History.

Friend or Foe by shekar on 12 Jan 2008

The congress government is more worried about BJP,s intrusion into its territory rather than chinese intrusion and they have accepted it only after the media emphatically showed what had happened in the borders. The chinese are always confusing(after all they are brothers of our communist friends). Our defence establishment is not given a freedom to handle this vicious atmosphere created, but unfortunately are being curtailed by the political intelligentsia. Hope sense will prevail during our PM's visit and they should also say in unequivocal terms about the status of Arunachal Pradesh.

Remove AK Antony from the defence ministry immediately ! by KMR Overseas on 12 Jan 2008

Antony (is an evangelist) not capable of leading Indian defense establishment. Weeks ago he was twisting the facts on Chinese incursions and later ended-up in Malaysia to sell missile despite ban on Indian workers.

ratna for PM by ravi reddy on 12 Jan 2008

Bail out man for UPA has finally admitted what foolish NSA couldn't who was busy validating Gen. Kiyani for us. This simply open the chinks in NSA, earlier Govt. claims that is all is well on Chinses Border. Lame duck PM and incompetent sonia gandhi last annoucement of upgrading an airbase for Soukhoi is yet to be seen. Given lame duck PM ways of ways of inspecting implementation of its decision. Lame duck PM who couldn;t save even Tiger from all it predators is not competent to guard the border for this country. We need Narendra Modi to be Home and Defence minister. As far as Congress's reaction to Advani's letter on Bharat Ratna is concerned, Mr. Moily is just licking his dravidian wounds as media is only talking 2 north indian for this coveted award. Going by merits Jyoti Basu stands nowhere for this. His credibility as National leader is yet to established whatever the claims of Bardhan

Unparrellel intelligence by Anna Das on 12 Jan 2008

Hai, Mr. Charulatha, What a brillient idea!!! You should be the president of BJP, and later the PM, so that you can fulfil all ur dreams!!!Bale Bhesh!!!

PM do not care for chinese incursion by Mrs Bhaanumati on 12 Jan 2008

PM Man Mohan Singh loses his sleep on arrest of muslim terrorists but do not lose his sleep on chinese incursion. He feels the pain of minorities but do not feel the pains of 3 lakhs hindus massacred by muslims in kashmir.

UPA govt is playing havoc with our territorial integrity by Mrs Chaarulata on 12 Jan 2008

UPA govt leaders are bunch of jokers. Some time ago when BJP raised this issue of chinese incursion UPA denied the report and blamed BJP for inciting communal tension.At one hand they are exposing indian military secrets by hosting joint military excercise with china and at other hand they are blaming china now. The people who read world affairs know that China is a rogue and barbaric country. It got developed because of the blessings from USA and UK.India should launch nuclear strike on china and reclaim our Tibbet and Aksai Chin. It is unfortunate that india is not talking about lands grabbed by china due to fear.We are buying so much weapons but not using them. The coward UPA leaders are wasting taxpayers money. If India attacks china all the foreign investors will leave that country soon and chinese economy collapse.

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