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I have read your open letter addressed to me in Loksatta. I am happy to read it. Leaders from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar (not all north Indians, only those from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar) and all north Indian journalists have decided to label whatever I and my colleagues, my party Maharashtra Navnirman Sena do, as "goondagiri".
It is natural. They are furious because their inter-connected economic, cultural and political interests have been jeopardized. For the first time, their uncontrolled political and cultural dadagiri has been confronted!
With this backdrop, I was happy to read your letter because, for the first time, someone has shown a willingness to discuss and debate the issues raised by me. And it is not someone ordinary but one who has handled the country's politics and culture from the Prime Minister's Office.
Sudheendraji, you have made many points in your letter. I will start with the one on violence. But before that, I would like to inform readers that I have been in active politics for about 18-19 years. I hope you don't doubt my political knowledge and experience! But to state the fact, I and my party have not undertaken any illegal, unconstitutional agitation if you consider the backdrop of the political history of our country.
Forget the country, even in Maharashtra every political party has indulged in political violence and murder at some time or the other. The levels and layers may be different. Some parties have supported such incidents on moral grounds. Such allegations have been made against many people in the present cabinet. I have neither supported political violence nor have my workers killed their opponents.
I will give you just one example. Not even a single worker has offended –– physically or verbally –– any mediaperson, despite the fact that the entire media (especially Hindi and English media) was spewing venom of contempt for Maharashtrians, on me and my party.
I can give you many examples of the media being attacked by enraged workers of all four major political parties in Maharashtra in similar situations. Isn't our patience and conscience indicative of a principled stance?
I have already apologised for the death in Nashik during this agitation. But it should also be kept in mind that it was an accident, not a political murder!
Maharashtra Navnirman Sena does not believe in political murders!
Leaders involved in political murders across the country come to Maharashtra to teach me ahimsa and journalists follow them and address them as "sir" and brand me and my followers as goondas. This is such an irony. I am surprised that nobody is objecting to the dirty politics being played over the death of a person.
Now, the violence.
Isn't the outbreak of spontaneous outrage in a people's movement understood? Can anyone avoid the violence or damage to property even if it does not bring happiness? Wasn't Gandhiji forced to withdraw his agitation when a chowkie was burnt at Chauri Chaura?
Besides, even after all this, was the violence and damage to public property avoided in the 1942 agitation? When people become furious, their response is the same, whether it is the Congress or the African National Congress.
Sudheendraji, as you are a former communist, you must be aware of crores of deaths and political murders during communist movements the world over. People's movements are a repetition of history to some extent.
Besides, do political movements need to obey the law? Political history learnt by me tells me that breaking the law, getting arrested, braving lathis and getting jailed are symbols of a principled agitation.
In recent times, the rulers and opposition parties indulged in movements of political compromise, in which morchas are taken out, the share of benefits of the government and opposition parties are decided. Then the protesters and their companions go home and sleep peacefully! This is called todbazi (compromise). The word political movement is an equivalent word for breaking the law!
Tell me, Sudheendraji, was Bihari MP Rajiv Pratap Rudy not aware of Advaniji's Rath Yatra when he chose to criticise me on the grounds that my agitation was unconstitutional, destabilising for the nation, sectarian? How many people died then? How much was the violence?
But didn't Advani pursue his campaign to make his point? The Bihari babu in Rudy seems to have woken up. I don't remember Rudy mustering courage to register his protest during the Rath Yatra or with Narendrabhai Modiji when our Gujarati brethren were outraged after the Godhra incident.
It means that everyone wants MPs and MLAs from Uttar Pradesh and Bihar to dance on the chest of Maharashtra. Because they know that Maharashtra's MPs and ministers in Delhi will not utter a word! The only thing remaining is Maharashtra government issuing an ordinance to compel every Maharastrian household to accommodate at least one bhaiyya from UP, Bihar and if not done, to brand such Maharashtrians as against the constitution!
Raj Thackeray and his party have become a hurdle in all this which is why they are ready to crush us. Sudheendraji, I have never opposed, do not oppose ordinary workers from U.P. and Bihari. Would I have spoken if chhatpooja was an ordinary religious pooja?
Gujaratis celebrate Garba in Maharashtra with a bang. We also enjoy it. Bengalis celebrate Navratri. We too participate in it. South Indians perform Ayyappa's rituals and Marathis pray there. But chhatpooja is not just a religious festival. At least it is not celebrated as one in Mumbai.
It is an akhada (wrestling ring) erected on Mumbai's chest by Bihari leaders to show their strength. There lies the root of our opposition. Sudheendraji, are you aware of any widespread chhatpooja being celebrated by Biharis living in Mauritius, Dubai or any country close to the sea?
How can you compare chhatpooja with Ganeshotsav? Ganesh is acknowledged nationally and internationally as Vighnaharta (the remover of obstacles). When Maharashtians living in other states celebrate Ganeshotsav, do they invite Pawarsaheb (Sharad Pawar), Munde (BJP leader Gopinath Munde), Balasaheb (Bal Thackeray), Vilasrao (Vilasrao Deshmukh) or Sushilkumar (Sushilkumar Shinde) to deliver fiery speeches?
Do Maharashtrians use Ganeshotsav to establish cultural and political supremacy in that state and make it a cultural vassal state? If any Maharashtrian is doing it, I object to that. But Maharashtrians never do it. Except people from U.P. and Bihar, migrants from other states do not indulge in such feudal activity.
States like Rajasthan, Punjab, Madhya Pradesh and Haryana are also in the north. Maharashtra has no objection to them because migrants from these states behave responsibly. I agree with you that India is a country of bouquets with flowers of different states.
But if a flower of one colour is rubbed violently on the petal of another of a different colour, it will damage both. There will be no manomilan (amalgamation). Nobody should do it.
I and my party were not against the common man from U.P. and Bihar, but when this common man comes to Maharashtra to prove the dadagiri of leaders from U.P. and Bihar!
Well, what is the history of such leaders? We would have followed their model if they had made U.P. and Bihar progressive states and created paradise. But these leaders have exploited the poor man there and impoverished these states by bringing in a mafia culture. What are these leaders saying here? "Take action against Raj Thackeray because he is a goonda!"
Sudheendraji, how could you fall prey to the disinformation campaign of leaders and journalists from U.P. and Bihar?
I will give you just one example, after reading which you and the whole world will realise how these leaders and bhaiyya journalists indulge in false and poisonous propaganda.
You have said that I have blamed Amitabh Bachchan for singing the "Chhora Ganga Kinarewala" song from the film "Don". It is totally false.
Bhaiyya journalists from U.P. and Bihar, who address Amar Singh as "sir, sir" have spread this venomous story all over the country. Am I mad to blame Amitabh for singing this line in "Don"? If that were the case, I would have demanded his arrest for acting in "Don"!
If I had to indulge in something foolish, I would have stooped to Lalu Prasad Yadav's level. Do you know the truth, Sudheendraji? Amitabh Bachchan delivered a speech and I have the clipping. I can show it to you.
He said, "Mai Dilli raha, Calcutta raha, Mai Bambai (not Mumbai!) raha. Phir bhi meri pehchan, chhora Ganga kinarewala hi hai".
My only observation was that if such a great hero feels love for Uttar Pradesh despite what Mumbai gave him, then what is wrong if a small man like Raj Thackeray feels love for Maharashtra?
I have the clipping of my speech with me. Isn't this enough to prove that such venomous propaganda has misguided a media stalwart like you?
Which Maharashtrian does not love India?
This love is not limited to just bursting crackers after India wins a cricket match, but is as vast as the Sahyadri rushing to help the Himalayas whenever there is a shadow of foreign invasion. Have Maharastrians failed to think about the country?
In fact, Maharashtrians have always thought of the country first, before they think of their own region. My chest swells with pride whenever I say Jai Hind. But nobody should forget that my Maharashtra is a part of India. It has its own culture, its own identity.
Nobody should forget it.
A guest is welcomed if he adjusts himself to the host's house. But if he tries to change the host's house through dadagiri, we won't tolerate it. And no means no!
I am proud of my workers for their struggle! Please don't call it 'Rada' (hooliganism) by giving old and historic references. They hit the streets to protect their own language and culture. Police are visiting their houses again and again and beating them up like cattle to punish them for protecting their language and culture.
They are tolerating it quietly. For whom? For Maharashtra! For India! It is fashionable for intellectuals here to blame my party for the unsolved problem of Marathi identity. But am I or my party responsible for it?
And if it has not been solved, is it wrong to struggle for it? For several decades, the mind of Maharashtrians is struggling to solve the Belgaum border issue. There have been several struggles on several levels. But the problem is where it was. Now, are you going to suggest that Maharashtrians should keep quite by presuming that the problem has been solved?
Whether it is the question of Palestine or Tamils, European countries and dada countries like America and the U.N. have not been able to solve them for several decades. Have they given up their efforts to solve these problems? Or have they withdrawn by presuming that the problem does not exist?
And your last point, Sudheendraji. You have said that I was tempted to launch this agitation in order to get instant and wide publicity for my party. Some arrogant journalists and intellectuals have called it a political stunt.
Sudheendraji, frankly speaking, I am not interested in publicity, impact, political benefits and votes. Such success is easily got by political compromise. I don't speak to journalists for months together.
I organise meetings and study developmental issues. Journalists then ask 'has Raj Thackeray formed a political party or an NGO?' When I concentrate on organisational matters and ignore other immediate things, journalists ask 'is Raj Thackeray building a party or a house?' (which is my means of livelihood). Then, when I respond to my inner voice and hit the street, journalists say 'this is Raj Thackeray's stunt for publicity'.
Sudheendraji, I have learnt to digest all this. I only respond to my inner voice. You may call it anything.
Sudheendraji, I hope you are satisfied. I have selected Maharashtra as my area of work.
Some inherent deficiencies have to be removed to make Maharashtra magnificent and progressive. For constructing a new building, some soil has to be dug for laying the foundation.
From this very Maharashtra, a great man had challenged the Mughal empire with the help of 15-50 colleagues. (I don't intend to compare myself with Chhatrapati Shivraya, lest Maharashtra's intellectuals come down on me).
The grave of the powerful Mughal emperor -- Aurangzeb -- exists in Daulatabad in Maharashtra.
Riding on the storm created by his 15-50 companions, the great man laid the foundation of an empire. That was the Maratha empire.
I pray to Shivaji to lend me and my colleagues at the Maharashtra Navnirman Sena a fraction of himself. I am ending this informal letter with the hope that you will wish us well.
Raj Thackeray
(Translated by Rakshit Sonawane)
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Be a proud taxpayer whereever u go in india and no one will trouble you. If you are a burden on the city's infrastructure using free water, illegal electricity and building slums you are not wanted anywhere as a migrant. Raj thakrey is definitely using goondagardi to tackle this for political milage, but its an eyeopener and if not him someone else would use this for political milage.Maharashtra and mUmbai being economically forward across other indian states and cities draw migrants from all over but they should definitely not be a burden on the place they are moving in.finally, who would like to see a slum being built in his neighbourhood? ththe politicians stay far away from slums and its the common people who suffer
Respected RajJi.Wish you very happy and prosperious birthday to You.As per my own view you are very true,but as a proud Mumbaikar as well as indian,I am requesting you that you should consontrate agitation against most corrupt,cunny and chargesheeted leader(so called)like Lalu,Mulayam,Amar Singh,Abu and they should not be allowed to do any dirty politics in Maharashtra,which is one of the greater part of our great country and also force to remove all illigal construction.I am also requesting you for arrange to sending back all Bangadeshi,which may be the largest problem for us.with regards...S K Sahay.
You and your party MNS need to put the shutter down and shut ur guttery mouth
Anyone can move acroos the country. If any Indian, whoever he is, comes to Mumbai/Maharashtra , he is not a guest. I deny to be called a guest in any geographical part of India, with all my strength.If any Marathi comes to UP or BIHAR HE/SHE is not guest. UP/Bihar is just a small part of the mansion called India. No citizen is guest in his own country, wherever he is. As far as Shivaji is concerned, He was fighting against mughal empire. but your rhetoric is against India. Gr8 Shivaji was not fighting against his brothers. Times were different, circumstances were different. We did not have India at that time what it is today. Please don't claim Shivaji to be Marathi hero.he is a national hero like Maharana Pratap, Sughash Chandra Bose, Bhagat Singh, Rajaji, Swami Vivekananad,Sri Aurbindo,Sri Robintranath, Sachin Tendulkar and many other. People across India love, admire, respect and try to emulate his actions. I refuse to seek permission from anyone in Maharashtra, for my stay here.You might have tinge of truth in your statement.But any Chhora/Chhori Ganga/Narmada/Godavari/Krishna/Hooghly/Kaveri Kinare wala can stay wherever he wants In India with pride and dignity.He/she owns the country, but definitly-not as a guest.
Are you just out of kindergarten? The song that you sing Varun of India being a house is sickening to be kind to you. If India is indeed a mansion then UP and Bihar are 2 rooms which badly need renovation. Instead if the members of that room (UP/Bihar) instead of plugging the leaks in their rooms, just occupy someone else's room, then they should be courteous enough to live there like guests. In this case the guests are trying to tell the original occupants that they are idiots!! While I do not condone any sort of violence, in this case I feel it is warranted.
Mr Kartik, when a family can not stay united like real brothers in family have seen fighting on mera - tera, when old age parents are not taken care by there son's after marriage How can you talk about all this. That maharastra is my house and others are guest. Can you see what is happening in every ones house your house. Is all nonsense.... Only house purchased by you registered to Municapal corporation is your's and see no body stays accupies that simple, You have right to shout if same body takes that up.
Point of point reply to Raj Thackeray's reponse.http://rajthackeray.wordpress.com/
are you an idiot Mr Raj Thackreay? Look at the way an intelligent person has asked a question and how you have ranted on and on about your political manifestation. Shame on you.
Well articulated points from Raj. I am not a Maharashtrian, but would like every region in India to preserve and honor its regional and local culture.
The MNS headed by Raj Thackeray has once again raked up unseemly controversy by returning to the archaic 'sons of the soil'theory with narrow vision of getting political mileage.The strident approach has alredy done enough harm by inleashing the most heinous forms of vandalism. There is neither sense nor any rationale in harping on the regional preference which leads to sectarian violence.WE are now looking for a global society where there are no north west south divides.India is now moving towards globalisation, and there is no place for divisive forces that undermine the spirit of oneness.It's better that MNS and Shiv Sena work in tandem towards communal harmony rather than take to mindless incendiarism.
The question that "Do political movements need to obey the law"? The answer to that is simple YES. Every citizen must obey the law and exercise their rights under the constitution. Similarly anyone, including the politicians, if they break the law must be punished. Otherwise, as we see it now every day the mob rule prevails. Public notices that the politicians get away with murder therefore the public also takes law on to their own hands. People like Advani/Modi/Tytler and Thackerays who preach hatred and communal politics should and must be punished. There should only be one law for every one whether they be politicians,muslims or belong to Gandhi or Thackeray family. Unless justice is seen to be done india will keep having massacres of the sort of 1984 and Gujjuland. It is always the innocents who suffer while the Modi/Thackeray types gain at their expense. Indians if they want to move and be noticed in the international world must learn to respect each other. People like Thackerays and Modis can not be allowed lose in a civilised society. Advani is too old to change but then he has not got too long to do more damage to India. In final analysis it is up to the Indian citizens to decide the type of country they want to live in and choose their leaders accordingly.
Laws are made by representatives of the common people to have an orderly society. Sometimes the Laws are passed out without much thought and debates. And sometimes there is not sufficient representation of the people (like those days under the British Rule). Sometimes the incompetent elected officials create bad laws.Ultimately laws are for the people.History has shown that people take law into their hands when they do not perceive the law to treat them fairly.Gandhi was able to convince people and launch the Dandi march. They made salt which was against the law.For a peaceful society, the rulers have to ensure there is law and order so that the society is stable and progresses. From that point of view, yes people should follow the laws. But there are cases where people can and should protest against laws. And I am not saying Raj's case is an example. I am arguing to provide a perspective. Cheers.
Raj, you say that guests (from UP and Bihar) are trying to change your house (Maharashtra).You assume that you are the owner and the others are guests.But you are forgetting the fact that those times are gone. Any Indian can have a home anywhere in India.If you go to a Bihari's house in Mumbai, you are the guest there, and not the owner!
Dear Sujith,If you are so concerned about Mr.raj's statement of owner
Don't tell the lies that any Indian can have a home anywhere in India. Prove to me by making a home in Jammu and Kashmir. As far as talking about ownership. you are not owner of your village, town or city but still you will protect it from outsiders, if you are a man enough.
Rajneesh, are you living in 16th century ?!You don't need to go to the street to show that you are a man.There is police and army maintained with taxpayer's money to provide security to the citizens.
What about the Massacre of the Sikhs(3870 killed),in 1984 by the Congress party?
Cut the crap ... whatever is going on can't be justified.
And I suppose you have some reason to say that!! Raj has just taken over the leadership of this social upheavel. If he had not someone else would have. The animosity between settlers and the original inhabitants is but natural and it has happened with the UP/Biharis even in Assam and parts of southern India.
Shri Raj: I think you need to grow-up. Your thinking and imagination is so childish. You wrote ""He said, "Mai Dilli raha, Calcutta raha, Mai Bambai (not Mumbai!) raha. Phir bhi meri pehchan, chhora Ganga kinarewala hi hai"." What is wrong there in this siatement of Bacchan? You or I may say the say thing, that I lived in London, NY, Mumbai etc but I love my Patna etc. Does saying I love my Patna, anyhow showing I don't love Mumbai etc? When I say, I love my mother so much, does that mean I hate my father? Bacchan used Calcutta, and not Kolkata. Are these really issues? Man, please maintain few days silence and mediattion, you will rediscover yourself. And please for Bhagavan sake, close this issue. All love their own culture and language, you or me no exception. Dadagiri of Biharis or UPites can't be defeated by Dadagiri of you. Fire don't extinguish fire, but water. May Bhagavn give us sad-buddhi.
Vidhur: Raj was making the same point. If Amitabh could still love UP so much, even after Mumbai gave him lots, why can't Raj love his Maharashtra.
Shri Raj: In my objective view, wrongs are done by both sides (you and otherside). As media like to sensitise news to earn money (like pro*tiutes over-decorates their body), they go overdose. Few months back, a rare incident in Guwahati (few boys did bad to a girl) was blown-out just to satisfy their money-thirsts. Media caused a great harm to the nation by exaggerating and fabricating the Mumbai incident. Media must act responsible way, in such a situation and not harm the nation.
Some intellectual GOONS like you will never understand the ground realities in Nashika and Pune. The MNS issue has been upheld by jobless youth who have the qualification but can't get job's in the Industrial zones in the backyard. People like you take great pride in calling Raj a GOON but you don't have sense and sensibility or the gray matter in your head to advice the Great GOONS of UP and BIHAR like chara eater LALU, plot eater twins Mulayam-Amar to do some development in their own states. These goons from UP and BIHAR can come and bullshit in Mumbai but can't dare to step in Asaam where Biharis are burned alive. Unless and until people don't remove that filter of regionalism these issues will arise now and often. Why UP and BIhari News channel (All Hindi news channel are UPites and Biharis) don't go to the cities like Nashik and Pune and understand the ground realities and the talk to the jobless local youths? unless and until locals don't get their share in development these issue will arise now and often?
Rajsaab has given right reply and deserved reply. He is doing what other politicians have doen in all this 60 years. the issue or regionalism will remain as long as our electoral system does not change to Two party rule. This will end the regional chaos and ugly violence in the name of regional patrotism. Great Gandhi Bapu gave us Fee India. Our India, We got rid of British Rulers but We did not change their Exploitative Machinery of Ruling. We forgot the Borders , our sea borders and our neighbours, we allowed infiltrations to go on. We allowed the Religious Hatred based Political culture. and now if Raj Thackeray is raising the issue for Maharashtra, we should think about the right sollution and not hate him as the Jesus said, Throw the Stone at sinner but only that one who has not sinned.Look at the freedom of 60 years , we have gained. only pollution in air, water, and cultural degradation in the name of modernity. What are our contibution except exploiting Earth and ecology. Why no one is raising the issue of Cow Slaugther, Forests vanishing, rivers polluting, unemployed ones taking to durgs and other illegal activities.
This goon is trying to hide his real intentions behind the scores of point without meirts. His letter does not hide his intentions nor his arrognace. We all show his goons on the street with swords and beating very ordinary people he claims he is not against! He ended with Shivaji Maharaj, the stupid guy forgot that the great empire, Shivaji Maharaj established was diminished by very heir of the greatman. If Raj Thakre thinks of him self as heir to great people like Shivaji Maharaj, Lok Manya Tilak or Gopalkrishna Gokhle, he very stupid heir of these great people who is procceding to distroy Maharashtra! A Mahrashtra that can be from Kanykumari to Kashmir and from Aruna Chal to Kuchha.
Shivaji was fighting a foreign ruler, the kingdom built by invaders.Whereas Mumbai or Lukhnow etc. are part of the same country ruled by Indians.It appears a wrong comparision
I am 100% agree with Mr. Raj thackeray
Noone is taking Maharashtrians for granted. But keep making hollow statements like these, and support a person instead of inspecting his ideologies, and people will soon ignore your opinions.
Raj's repost was reveting reading.In my opinonto justify your cause based on flawed premise,will discredit your good intenions and nobility.Rememebr two wrongs does not make one right.You are forgetting Hinduism thrived and flourished,beacuse it was all inclusive and allaccepting, on the very ethos the great warrior Shivaji,faught and vanquished the Mughal invader, was to unify the Marathi and at large the Hindus.The crusade of the 21st Century shold to unify the hindus of all shades and enshrine them with Hindu wisdom and pride.Marathi have always accepetd others who had contributed economically and socially,that is Mumbai, is so successful.By being divisive,parochial,invoking Maratha nationalismand narrow minded outlook, will not allow you to achieve your stated objectives, further it will complicate the matter. You need to deleve little deeper to find out the actual causes of dadgiri and then try to fix the problem, altoughuncontrolled movement of labout does not help, especially those Pakistani and Bangladeshi muslims,who are creating some problems.Finally I would state that this contentious issue has been excerbated by Govterments economic mismanagement,inept governance and intransparent accountabilty.You will do well directing your fire at the Congress Politicians,who are responsible for this mess and still fomenting trouble. Divisive and ego pilitics will enable the Hindus to become more fragmented and weak and there by shooting ourselves in the foot rather than unifying.
One can understand Raj Thackeray's frustration. He forgot that Rath Yatra was to unite the people and not to divide the people on minoirty or SC/OBC basis and above all to get people support for Ayodhaya movement. As far Godhara, what happened was unfortunate and people should not forget that those burnt alive at Godhra train station were human being and not chickens. Besides, why Raj Thackeray deliberately trying to forget what happened in 1984 and 1993? Perhaps he sees only what he wants to see. The only truth in Raj's statement is that he used the words Bihar and UP while Media, politicians and some people with ulterior motives added entire North India which was absolutely wrong and king pin of this move was Amar Singh who is enjoying full immunity. Nevertheless, blame game played by Politicians harming the nation.
TUN HINDU BANEGA NA MUSSALMAN BANEGA, INSAAN KI AULAD HAI INSAAN BANEGA,TUN MARATHI NA BANEGA, NA GUJARATI BANEGA, INSAAN KI AULAD HAI INSAAN BANEGAMAALIK NE HAR INSAAN KO INSAAN BANAYA, HUMNE UUSE MARATHI OR GUJARATI KAHLAYA,KUDRAT NE THO HUMME BAXI THI, EK HI DHARATI, HUMME KAHIN MAHARASHTRA, KAHIN GUJARAT BANAYA,TUN MARATHI NA BANEGA NA GUJARATI BANEGA, INSAAN KI AULAD HAI INSAAN BANEGA
Hi,See this guy , how is he manipulating things for his wrong doings . How can you compare Gandhiji stuggule with your propaganda ? Why are you afraid of Amar Singh etc ? Amar Singh can go Mumbai what is the problem in it ? If you are blaming Bhaiya culture , did you try to find out why it is happening ? Raj is writing simply that Bhaiyas are behaving like Mafia ? Question is why are they behaving like this ? I asked this question from a Bhaiya living in MH , he replied me that local people exploit us . They try to use us and want to pay us less. They try to discriminate us . They treat us like second class citizen . If we don't unite , chances are that they will not allow us to live there ? The reason is that they want our votes and at the same time to keep us treating as a second class citizen.Atal Bhaiya
My thinking stops at one point mentioned in this letter from Raj.If a guest at our own home (think about our own home) starts to do something which we don't like, then what do we do? I would ask every one who is reading this article and who ever posted comments on it, to think over it. Will you guys tolerate it? Or will you raise voice against your guest to behave properly?What happens to the famous saying then that "When in Rome do as the Romans do"?I am an outsider to the current state where I am working, and I can't tolerate anyone saying anything against this state simply because this is the state that is giving me my food to survive. I think if everyone of us grow this feeling then it’s not far away when this kind of debates would cease to exist and we can proudly say WE ARE INDIANS.Jai Hind
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