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Don't listen to Indians: Pak Americans tell Obama admin

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Posted: Jan 27, 2009 at 1527 hrs IST
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Washington Pakistani Americans, in a move to counter Indo-American groups active in lobbying in Washington, have floated a body, which has asked the Obama administration and US lawmakers not to listen to the demands of India.

Accusing Indian American groups of lobbying with Washington for putting pressure on Islamabad in the aftermath of the Mumbai attack, the Pakistani-American groups are telling the US that Islamabad has been a reliable ally in its war against terror.

Leaders of the newly formed Pakistan American National Alliance (PANA), at a press conference said Indian Americans were lobbying before the Congress and the Obama Administration asking them to exhort pressure on Pakistan for taking action against the terrorists involved in the Mumbai attack, and penalize Islamabad in case it fails to do so.

PANA, which includes six eminent Pakistani American organisations, announced its formation on the eve of some 150 Indian American leaders from various parts of the country converging in Washington to lobby before the Obama team and Congressmen to tell Pakistan to take action against the perpetrators of the Mumbai attack.

"As previous experience shows some of the terrorist acts by non-state actors are in fact complex, well planned and sophisticated as witnessed during the tragic events of 9/11 and embassy bombings in Africa. The perpetrators of 9/11 were Saudi and Egyptian citizens, but the US Government never suspected nor blamed the Saudi of Egyptian governments," the group said in a statement.

"Therefore the presumption that since a citizen of a certain country performs a certain act, therefore its government should be held responsible is erroneous," it said and urged the Obama administration to influence India for a joint Indo-Pak investigation of the Mumbai terrorist attack.

The Pakistani-Americans also announced they would hold day-long lobbying activities at the Capitol on February 18, after the US Congress resumes.

Asking the White House and the US Congress to cooperate with the government in Islamabad and provide massive economic aid to the country, Pakistani Americans demanded that Indian parties like Bharatiya Janata Party, Rashtriya Swyamsevak Sangha, Shiv Sena and Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi Parishad be declared terrorist outfits.

It also demanded appointment of a special mediator to resolve the Kashmir issue and urged the new administration not to give US visa to the Gujarat Chief Minister, Narendra Modi.

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terrorist supporters malpractices by sunil on 31 Jan 2009

it is highly wrong to project nationalist and constructive organisations as terrorist organisations.These organisations are not campaigning against anybody but just appeal to work to uplift the nation. HERE IN INDIA SOME PARTIES FOR MUSLIM AND CHRISTAN VOTES DO SUCH ANTI RSS campaigns. see reality.

Will US listen to Indians by AD on 28 Jan 2009

Do you think America is listening to India. If it were we will be doing what Israel has done in Hamas. Also, these members of PANA should openly oppose terrorism. Where were they when 9/11 happened. I did not see them come out and condemn Osama. There may be some truth in the fact that the elements may be non state, in that case had them over to India. Why harbour such folks. I will reuest PANA to pressurise Pakistan governemnt to hand over Dawood and other terrorist to India.

Pakistan is 9th Worst Country in the World by True Indian on 28 Jan 2009

Guys, Just visit "Failed States Index" site and click "The Rankings" icon. You can see Pakistan is placed at a dismal 9 th position which means only 8 other countries (Somalia, Iraq, Chad, Sudan, Afghanistan, Zimbabwe, Congo, Ivory Coast) are worse off than Pakistan, whereas INDIA is placed at a comfortable and enviable 98 th position. So guys let us stop worrying about Pakistan. They are allowing drone attacks on their soil and at the same time shamelessly accepting money as aid from US.

Pak - Amaricans lobby in Washington by Sanjeev on 28 Jan 2009

The PANA must try to put Pakistan's house in order, so they must lobby in Pak and not in US.They could, for a start , start by answering the following questions :1) Who or what (organization ) is in control in Pak?2) Who gave the ex - president Musharraf the right to comment on US bombings in Pak , now that he has retaired ?3) Why should the US NOT worrry about the safety of its citizens , who will feel unsecure as long as Ladan is arround?4)The argument that US assaults will destabalize Pak's DEMOCRATICALLY ellected govt. does not hold true because it is just a smoke screen for the activities of the ISI and a way of getting US funds. Why should the US tolerate or bother about the stability of such a civilian govt. in Pak. and NOT attack Pak targets to flush out Ladan and other terrorists on its soil?5) Why is Pak NOT worried about the presence of these terrorists in Pak?Is it because of the fact that no harm will be done to Pak?6) Has ISI been Talibanized?

Pak is 9th Worst Country in the World by True indian on 28 Jan 2009

Guys, just go to "Failed States Index" site and click The Rankings icon,and see for yourselves the ranking of Pakistan in the Failed States Index. Pakistan stands at a dismal 9th position which means that only 8 other nations (Somalia, Sudan, Zimbabwe,Chad, Iraq, Congo,Afghanistan

Pakis losers by govi on 28 Jan 2009

Who are they to impose sanctions against Modi. He is doing a very good job of a leader. I second Preity Zinta and others who support him for PM leadership. Pakistan is famous for training all the jehadis from Gulf/Muslim countries . Pak is a hub and even their army/isi/and political leaders are terrorists. Why are these beggars crying because the terrorists will run dry but you have Dawood to fill your banks. This country has never progressed in any way ever since the partition. They are trying to sabotage India's progress and development. All they are involved in fraud/killing and burning. Hold your pakis from coming to India to beg. They are so desperate that they don't want to leave.If Modi is trying to defend its people against killing you don't like it. We will definitely support him if he stands for PM's post.

Don't listen to Indians: Pak Americans tell Obama admin by vir on 28 Jan 2009

FACE FACTS-Hindus in Pakistan are much worse off than the Muslims in India.

Pakistan and its terrorist connection by Sudarshan Agrawal on 28 Jan 2009

These people have no shame whatsoever that is why they are begging USA to donate Pakistan. It is surprising that they are demanding Indian organizations to be declared terrorist organizations. These people have no time to look into their own country and are trying to look into the affairs of India. As to why Saudi and Egypt were not declared terrorist because those govt did not provide any support. It was Pak govt that provided support. Why the US planes are dropping missiles on Pakistani territory it is anybody's guess.

Deal with pro-Pak elements in India by Vilas on 28 Jan 2009

It is no doubt at last in the minds of Indians that Pakistan Govt and its agencies do indulge in terrorist activities directly or indirectly. But that does not mean that all Pakistanis are terrorists. It may be counterproductive to call all Pakistanis, in Pak or overseas as anti Indian or terrorists. Especially American Pakistanis have more affiliation for India as all they consider themselves as "DESIS". One can be patriotic and do everything possible to help once motherland nothing wrong in that. So I am amazed at the reaction by many of us at PANA. They may be wrong, they may be blinded by their love for their motherland, they may be over protective but certainly they are Desis no doubt about it. War can solve some problems but not all. One can conquer but one cannot win over at the point of Gun. We, India and Indians are far better than Pak and Pakistanis so let’s just ignore PANA It will be more productive to watch and deal with pro pak elements in India and Indian society.

Beggers jealousy by jimmy on 28 Jan 2009

what a bunch of clowns from this begging state? India and Pak had exactly the same starting point - except for one difference - India a forward looking secular state based on tolerent age old Hindu tradition

Aakistani Americans by jas on 27 Jan 2009

They are still there? The great Satan still harbors them? I thought they all invaded and conquered Canada after 9/11. Nothing good will ever come out oh these religion obsessed dimwits. Their credibility with USA congressmen is about the same as those of their equally stupid ‘friends’ in VHS of USA. At least this time reasonably thinking person can agree with their demand of banning their mirror image, of Hindu stripe i.e. Bharatiya Janata Party, Rashtriya Swyamsevak Sangha, Shiv Sena and Akhil Bharatiya Vidyarthi ParishadThey (PANA) would have some credibity if they had included Government of Pakistan, ISI, Madrassas and numerous muslim groups in the list organizations that need to be banned. I don't think ban would help. We, the reasonable and indidels people of the world must come up with a way to isolate these religion obsessed scumbags of every stripe. They will kill one another, hopefully, and then rest of us will have endurable peace in world.

Brown Brothers by Nataraja on 27 Jan 2009

PANA should focus on saving the Pakistani economy than attacking India's interest. My message to Pakistan - stop begging for money from these firangis and chinis. Your brown brothers are right next door and have lot of money. We are one people, one civilization. We could not repel invaders from the central asia and that is why you are what you are.

They love Modi. by Dee on 27 Jan 2009

Why r they in love with N. Modi? The dictator of their country Parvej is moving free on university campuses here.

Pak Americans by purushottam on 27 Jan 2009

I t will be a great SHAME if the U.S. Lawmakers even allow the PANA to step in the hallowed Capitol area just to get a few$ political donation,PANA=future 9/11

PANA by Ashutosh Kaul on 27 Jan 2009

Indian Americans have a right to come together and lobby for the Indian point of view, similarly Pak-American groups have the same right. American administration will however listen to those that suit American interests. That is where India scores way over Pakistan.India being a stable democracy with a large domestic market and many faceted economic ties to the US, it can potentially partner to lift the US economy from the present doldrums it is in.That is Obama administration's top priority. Pakistan on the other hand is at best a security headache to be contained, a proven nuclear proliferate and the only source for Islamic terrorists to get their hands on a nuclear device.That is Obama's biggest worry. PANA can lobby all they want,it may buy them some more time eventually US will have to confront Pakistan over their conduct sooner than later.

Lobbiest by Raj on 27 Jan 2009

No government can decide fate of another country’s bureaucracy. Doesn't matter what lobbies perform and where down the line bully succeeds where see capitalist benefits?

boycoat by pratao on 27 Jan 2009

Indo-American should not buy any product from Pak-Americans. Do not even enter their restaurants

YOU BETTER GOT TO PAKISTAN AND SPEAK by Joicee on 27 Jan 2009

its crystal clear Pakistanis will never improve from their criminal mind, whether they are in Pakistan or In the United states. Hell you stupid Pak- Americans, why are you so patriotic pakistanis living in the united states, you better go to pakistan and say these kind of things to your liar leaders.

Give respect to US by PKulandavelu on 27 Jan 2009

This so called newly formed PakistanAmerica National Alliance (PANA) is surely going to fail in their move .Are they really not knowing what is going on In Pak.Swat valley is taken over by Talibans ,daily some people are beheaded for the resistance they offered to Talibans,Girls education is blocked.These Talibans are summoning Dignitaries to appear in the Talibans court.In the East LeT is sending their terrorists to disturb India.India sent the proof to Pak.and US and both agreed that the outfits are from PAk.only.This PANA members should open their eyes and see the actual fact.They are living in the world's large democratic US which is also suffered by terror threat.Because this PANA is Pakistanis they want to oppose India.They should understand onething.Inside Pakistan there are many people who wants to develop friendship with India ,especially they feel this after the Pak.people suffered more by Talibans in Swat region.If PANA is not accepting the truth it is shame on them.

muslim any where , the mindset is same by sarma on 27 Jan 2009

its like asking declear all gair, kafir, nonbelievers as terorrists !!.we indians must believe only one thing, we have to be isreal and protect our country and so our citizons. nothing and nobody is going to come to your resque. we should not forget this simple truth. by the way obama is not ruling india, i hope so, unless congress has done something extraordinary .

Irrational, misdirected Pakistani Anger by Student on 27 Jan 2009

As usual, not a single positive point on the agenda of pro-Pakistani organizations. If Pakistan's government should not be held accountable for terrorist activities committed from its soil, then neither should it's government be asking for any foreign aid. Let's face it, pro-Pakistan groups want their country to have all the benefits of being treated as a global leader without any of the responsibilities that come along with it. And if these groups want to call India's democratically-elected political parties "terrorists", what should we call Pakistan's unelected dictators and tribal leaders? Instead of this defensive, negative campaigning why don't these groups redirect their anger towards the Pakistani government for failing to make any positive dent in the security situation? Or is that also India's fault?

Pak americans by Bhartiya on 27 Jan 2009

im waiting for the day a pak-american blows up himself protesting against the foreign policy of usa, like the pak-british did in england! then i would like PANA to say something!

Misplaced Patriotism of PANA by Anil Kohli on 27 Jan 2009

PANA good for you. This really shows the disconnect that is there ,after leaving your country you have totally lost touch with the reality in Pakistan. Do not get upset with, what is happening. In the long run the biggest beneficiary is going to be Pakistan. If the terrorist are not wiped out from Pakistan, they will wipe out your country, surely you guys cannot be so blinded with anti India sentiments that you will cut your nose to spite your face.India and the world wants this monster dead why do you want to resist this is beyond our comprehension. Hat the Government of Pakistan calls as Non State actors are infact products of your society. Unbelievable that you people cannot see your own country progress instead you want it to regress.What kind patriot are you.?

WHY? "AMERICAN-PAKISTANIs" NOT FEEL ASHAMED by dv sharma on 27 Jan 2009

PANA is the birth of grave situation, what Every Pakis is feeling. Pakistain played a negative role aginst INDIA, The situation now is that after 60 years-Pakistan is just a begging state and India is a growing Economy. In India Muslims live more than population of entire Pakistan.

pak americans by skumar on 27 Jan 2009

pakistani americans r desperately trying to cover up what had happened in Mumbai on 26/11. all the world knows tt, terrorism is emanates fm pakistan. there is NO use to hoodwinking on this, as said my fellow members, america should pack up and sent them back to pakistan, before creating another 9/11.

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