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Hinduism does not condemn gay people: UK Hindu Council

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Posted: Jul 03, 2009 at 1311 hrs IST

London The Hindu Council UK welcomed the Delhi High Court's historic judgement which decriminalised consensual homo sexual relations and said Hinduism does not condemn gay people.

British Hindu homosexual community will welcome the news that their brethren in India are now be able to enjoy the same freedom as they do here, Anil Bhanot, General Secretary Hindu Council UK said. It is indeed good news that people are not discriminated against because of God's laws of nature. Bhanot said the Hindu scripts describe the homosexual condition to be a "biological one, and although the scripture gives guidance to parents on how to avoid procreating a homosexual child, it does not condemn the child as unnatural.

"Hinduism prescribes 16 ceremonies to mark each major stage in one's life span. We would usually observe the birth, name, adolescence, marriage, retirement and death ceremonies but there is a little known ceremony called the "insemination" ceremony or the Garbhadan Sanskaar, which I am sure nobody observes now-days."

Bhanot said, "This insemination ceremony talks about homosexuality. The ancient Rishis or prophets advocated that there are two elements, fire (agni for sun) and water (soma for moon) which determine the sex of a child.”

"Of the 16 days from the end of the menstruation cycle, sexual intercourse for the purposes of procreation was forbidden on certain days as during these days the menses may continue."

The theory goes that if insemination takes place in the night of an even number from six to 16, a male child will be born whilst on an odd number of fifth, seventh, ninth and 15th night a female child will be born, Bhanot added.

"The scripture further forbids insemination on the 11th or the 13th night after the end of the menstruation cycle because then it says the child will be homosexual," he said.

According to the scripture the sex of a child is determined by whether the fire element is dominant or the water element is dominant. Thus during those even nights the fire element dominates giving a male conception and during those odd nights the water element gives a female conception.

However, if the fire element equals the water element then a homosexual conception takes place, Bhanot said. "The point here is that the homosexual nature is part of the natural law of God; it should be accepted for what it is, no more and no less.

Hindus are generally conservative but it would seem to me that in ancient India they even celebrated sex as an enjoyable part of procreation, where priests were invited for ceremonies in their home to mark the beginning of process.

In fact King Dasharath, who fathered Lord Rama around 2100 BC had one of the most lavish insemination ceremonies.

"Homosexuals are full human beings, who in Hinduism even worship their own deity, the Mother Goddess Bahuchara, for their spiritual link to the Absolute Brahm.

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Hinduism does not condemn gay people: UK Hindu Council by Ratan Gupta on 03 Jul 2009

Some people are impotent by birth. They do not involve themselves in any sexual acitivity. They are naturally impotent. They still behave straight and normal people without any sexual activity. However, Gay and Lesbians are filthy and invite and propagate their filthy sexual habits. Why do we eat food? What is the purpose of eating food? To survive! God has provided taste and delicacy in food otherwise we would not go near the food and die. In the same way, sex is for reproduction. God has kept pleasure in sex otherwise nobody would have children and the world will stop. By virtue of that, where these filthy concept has come from? Some Muslim haters and bashers have said that Islam is the only religion that condemns it. False. Christian preachers are on the front as well. We are not interested to debate right or wrong, but Islam bashing is more important to us. I salute to Muslims and to their religion to protect humnaity from this filth. Thank you sir. Count on us.

Hinduism does not condemn gay people: UK Hindu Council by Ratan Gupta on 03 Jul 2009

Nonsense.

Kudos by Ram Singh Meena on 03 Jul 2009

Contrary to what people say Hinduism promotes the Gay people's rights. I as a gay Hindu salute the courts.

Mr NRI: don't ridicule by Shallabh on 03 Jul 2009

Mr NRI there is Hindu council. Just contact them, or I'll help you out.I welcome Hindu Council to give such a comment.Hindu Council has spoken against cow slaughtering, conversions and yoga. It has spearheaded campaigns for hindu human rights. Seems like Mr. NRI you are too much into ther activities, anyways time is still ripe, join them or not join them atleast don't ridicule them.

Against Humanity by abdussamad on 03 Jul 2009

Indian people are against this kind of law and congress will see the negative markings in the coming elections wherever. This is against Humanity and this unhuman law should be erased. and punish who supports it.

Change by Gopal on 03 Jul 2009

Change is a fact..some accept it some do not. It is a major decision by the court and carries the message that what we used to think as a sin..is a sin no more. I am not for and neither against same sex relationships. There are some changes taking place everytime and everywhere and this is one of them ...."a major one" though. There is onlt 1 religion which is always against any kind of change constructive or otherwise. For them this is a major jolt...although they very well know that some of their followers are gay too.The leaders of that religion will only be happy when men do not shave and follow barbaric laws ..laws which recommend chopping hands of thieves and stoning to death and oher inhuman acts... and women remain always in the veils inside the houses and preferably without education.I am though happy that our society is open to change and not as conservative as it used to be.

I LIVE IN U.K. BUT NEVER KNEW THAT WE HAVE HINDU SCHOLAR HINDU COUNCIL by N.R.I on 03 Jul 2009

I WOULD LIKE ANIL BHANOT , SECRETARY OF HINDU COUNCIL OF U.K, WOULD YOU ACCEPT YOUR SON OR DAUGHTER AS GAY OR LESBIAN ?I HAVE HEARD PEOPLE HAVE SEX WITH ANIMALS IN U.K. AND THERE ARE FILMS AVAILABLE TO HIRE OR BUY IN BLACK MARKET .IS THIS NATURAL ? GAY AND LESBIAN IS SOME MENTAL PROBLEM WHICH SHOULD BE CURED BY MEDICATION .ANIL BANOT , YOU TALK BULL SHIT .I WOULD LIKE BHANOT TO ANSWERE ONE THING , HOW MANY HINDU PEOPLE YOU HAVE HELPED WHEN THEY HAVE PROBLEMS . NONE . SO SHUT UP AND STOP GIVING YOUR FOOLISH OPINON . HINDU COUNCIL HAS NEVER SPOKEN ON BEHALF OF U.K. HINDUS .THESE PEOPLE ARE WASTE OF TIME . THEY REPRESENT THEM SELF AND NOBODY ELSE.

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