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Talibanisation is happening in Karnataka: Renuka

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Posted: Feb 07, 2009 at 1441 hrs IST
Renuka Chowdhury

New Delhi Coming down heavily on the BJP government in Karnataka in the wake of Mangalore incidents, Women and Child Development Minister Renuka Chowdhury on Saturday said there was a ‘breakdown’ of law and order in the state where ‘Talibanisation’ is happening.

"All instruments of democracy will be used to stop such incidents,” she said commenting on Friday's kidnapping of the daughter of a Kerala MLA and her Muslim male friend from a bus in Mangalore by activists of Sri Ram Sene.

"The state government is not in control of the law and order situation. Talibanisation is happening. There is a clean communal divide where a Hindu girl is prevented from talking to a Muslim boy, it is a very dangerous trend," the Minister said.

"There is a breakdown of law and order in Karnataka and I think we should look at it as a national security problem," she said.

Asked why the Centre was not intervening, Chowdhury said the government is ‘respecting the Centre-state ties’ but nobody should think that it is ‘weak or cannot do anything’.

"We are repeatedly warning the state government that they should take cognizance. When it is necessary we will take a step," the Minister said.

Referring to the recent attack by Sene activists on women in a Mangalore pub, she said the issue should not be diluted by saying that it is only about ‘pub culture’.

"It is a much deeper rot. Today it is a pub, tomorrow if you are sitting in the staircase in front of your house, they will come and slap you. It is fascism, there is an attempt to spread an ideology of hatred in Karnataka, an attempt to bring a communal divide," Chowdhury said.

Slamming the BJP-led regime, she said, "it is fascism supported by a state government that we need to be concerned about."

Chowdhury said she will continue to pressurise the state government along with the civil society.

Voicing apprehension that similar incidents may take place on Valentine's Day, she said, "I have no confidence on the state government. I am watching the situation to see how best to carry this forward. I am still giving a long rope to the state government. I will talk to the Chief Minister and is writing a letter to him".

"We have various instruments of democracy to use when the situation arises," Chowdhury warned.

"We want the state to react, if they don't or cannot or they are helpless then according to situation we will react," Chowdhury said when asked if the Centre can act against Karnataka government based on a report by the WCD Ministry.

"My question is who is Sri Ram Sene. Who has empowered them, what are their funding agencies, why the state government is using no law to curtail this," Chowdhury said.

Asked on reported statement of NCW member Niramala Venkatesh that the Ministry has no power to act against her, she said, "its OK. It is not a battle between Venkatesh and Renuka Chowdhury. Please do not divert from the real issue."

To a question about the BJP taking steps to ‘reward’ Venkatesh, she said, "I cannot comment on a hypothetical situation. If they do they will only expose themselves."

Asked if the Ministry can take action against Venkatesh, she said, "we are entitled to. We will go through the proper procedure and we are not helpless."

She said the WCD Ministry team probing the pub attack have collected all ‘supporting evidence’ and the report will be taken into cognizance.

Denying that she gave a call for a 'pub bharo' movement, she said the issue relates to the individual citizen's constitutional rights.

Asked about BJP leader and TV actress Smriti Irani's comments that she has no knowledge about Indian culture, she said, "poor Smriti must be bothered about her ticket."

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would you prefer the hindu talibs over renuka? by divya on 14 Feb 2009

i am shocked at what these men here are writing. the whole idea is to protest againt bullies like yourselves telling women how to live and who to fraternize with. its ok for these bullies to beat up women, is it. that doesnt seem to be the concern with you men...what rage is being displayed at renuka calling for a pub bharo..how come there is no similar rage at the shit thats going on in our country. And the man who says he is a Kannadiga...you should hang your head in shame at whats being allowed to happen in Karnataka. OPEN YOUR EYES YOU DIMWITS..this is about freedom of choice and life. Dont you dare be telling us Indian women how to live. Ignorant scums.

Pub Bharo by Jasveen Ahluwalia on 12 Feb 2009

we will be doing a pub bharo in solidarity here in kabul, afghanistan. Even though most of us raise our glasses with just coke in it. But its the issue of not allowing the our democratic spaces to be curtailed anymore, nor allowing groups like the one in magalore with its right wing ideology dictate how women in our country should live- wear, eat, drink... when will this stop. which century are you folks living in, do you want another version of talibanism.

Talibanisation is happening in Karnataka: Renuka by Suresh Rao on 10 Feb 2009

Yes , most unfortunately Talibanisation is happening all over India and this is a direct reaction tothe criminal minded phoney intellectual secularist thugs and hoodlums' secular policies and the Muslim Communal Party (Congress I's) vote bank politics

talibanisation by harishu12 on 10 Feb 2009

my goodness ,do have people like ms renuka choudhary ruling us!! please leave us alone,you and your children can go to grand kakatia hotel for you pub life,please think about millions of indian women suffering because of alcoholism

crocodile tears. by pradeep nair on 09 Feb 2009

Madam where were you when eve teasing became dangerously uncontrolled in andhra?where were when scarllet was raped and murdered?where were you when MNS started challenging the secular fabaric of our country..so stop crying hoarse on these trival issues in an opposition ruled state,people are seeing through your game of pleasing your bosses just before the general elections'.

Renuka needs help by Vishnu Acharya on 09 Feb 2009

I am a Kannadiga living in Karnatak.I seriously feel Renuka needs help from a Psychiatrist. Otherwise, how can she use words like Talibanisation of Karanatak?

Renuka Choudhary by Vaid S C K on 09 Feb 2009

It is sad and unfortunate for India to have union ministers like Renuka. Her statements based on media reports without paying any heed to contradictions issued by the Karnataka officials give clear signal of tarnishing image of first BJP Government there. In view of forthcoming Lok Sabha election, congress leaders want to poison the minds of people by hook or crook. Media must also look into their style of sensitisation matters of emotional content. In debates, if the reporter does not get the answer convenient to him/her, speaker is branded as smart person defending undefendable. Journalist should report the event to public and not get the public endorse what they think right. Now people know that even journaists are on the pay roll of politicians and use their skill to extort for their peronal benefits.

Live and let live by Rajesh on 09 Feb 2009

An uncultured person is one who talks and behaves in a boorish manner. None of the pub-goers conducted themselves in a disgraceful manner. If anyone thinks that Indian culture is going to be affected by going to a pub he or she should see a psychiatrist. What about the millions of wine shops in this country where people behave like animals. Cant you close them first????

Pub Bharo...... by Common Man on 09 Feb 2009

Renuka has taken a stuture of Gandhiji now, she has grown big (well I am talking about stature only). Gandhiji gave a slogan Jail Bharo, she is giving a new slogal Pub Bharo. She want every housewife and girl (all woman) should go to pub atleast once a day so that Ram Sene can learn to lesson. Vijay Mallaya also would be happy. He will provid emore advertisements to the news channels helping this cause. Media also would be happier, they will race for Renuka's interviews. Common Man will keep watching and voting....

who benefits??? by Common Man on 09 Feb 2009

Renuka is right, Karnataka in general and Mangalore in particular are only placed across India where woman are being man-handled. Poor womans were not allowed to shoot their blue films peacefully. What if culprits of CPM politician's daughter manhandling were CPM cadres, what the state government is doing? Girl has all rights to flirt with anyone, why her father's partyman are allowed to manhandle them? Gandhiji has said "Ahimsa Parmodharma"... Renuka's party strictly follows Gandhian culture. Renuka is right......

Pathogen Renuka by Venkatesh on 09 Feb 2009

Who is this pathogen Renuka?. Just eliminate all these craps..only then our country will be better

Please dont give way to NON VIOLENCE by savitha on 08 Feb 2009

I even agree this westernisation is spoiling our culture....Yet we indians should handle it in indian way...All these happened here is just for political reasons...This should be condemned...These people should be punished severely...If not this will give them guts to do anything in india...

Please dont give way to non violence by savitha on 08 Feb 2009

There is no point in giving attention to renuka...And there are hell other ways of d of activies shoucontrolling pubs...This kinld be highly punishable..where is india leading to? what happened to gandhiji's NON VIOLENCE ?

TALIBANIZATION by N.V.SANKARAN on 08 Feb 2009

It was not just the BJP chief minister of Karnataka who spoke against the "pub culture". The congress chief ministers of Rajashtan and Maharashtra also had spoken against that culture. If the BJP is guilty of trying to "Talibanization" of Indian society, does notthe Congress equally at fault? Mahatma Gandhiji had been completely against consumption of alcohol and had been relentlessly fighting for a complete prohibition in India. He had also been most ardent advocate of promoting Hindu culture. So, by the same yardsticks, would those who support "pub culture" under the guise of personal freedom would call the Mahatma also a Taliban?

Talibanisation is happening in Karnataka: Renuka by Amp on 08 Feb 2009

RENUKA-KEEP YOU MOUTH SHUT FOR CHEAP PUBLICITY! UPA HAS DONE TREMENDOUS DAMAGE TO INDIAN CULTURES!

RENUKA BECOMING WILD... FOR WHAT?? by ANIYAN on 08 Feb 2009

RENUKA IS CROSSING ALL THE LIMITS OF LAXMANA REKHA. SHE WENT TO THE EXTENT OF QUESTIONING THE INTEGRITY OF THE MOTHER OF MUTHALIK, BY-PASSING ALL COMMON DECENCY AND CULTURE OF A WOMAN. THIS ALL KICKED UP FOR THE HEAR SAY THAT A TEENAGED GIRL OF KERALA MLA WAS ATTACKED IN MANGALORE, WHEREAS THE GIRL WAS INTERCEPTED BY THE MEN OF HER FATHER'S PARTY, FROM HIS OWN CONSTITUENCY, WHILE SHE WAS TRAVELLING WITH HER BOY FRIEND, IN A SUSPICIOUS NATURE. SO, THE MLA, HIS PARTY, THE KERALA CM ARE RESPONSIBLE; NOT MR.YEDYURAPPA OR OTHERS. RENUKA SHOULD IMMEDIATELY ISSUE AN UNCONDITIONAL APOLOGY FOR ALL THE OUTBURSTS SHE MADE OR THE CONGRESS SHOULD DIRECT HER TO DO IT, IMMEDIATELY, AS THERE IS WIDE CONDEMNTATION FROM THE PEOPLE.

INDIAN CULTURE AND WHY TALIBANISATION?? by M.M.NAAZIM on 08 Feb 2009

FRIENDS ! EVERY LAND HAS A UNIQUE CULTURE OF IT'S OWN , THERE IS EUROPEAN / ARAB / PERSIAN / CHINESE / AMERICAN,,,, AND SO WE HAVE INDIAN CULTURE , BUT UNFORTUNATELY , DEMOCRACY BRINGS ALONG WITH IT SOME UNWANTED FREEDOM WHICH INDIVIDUALS SHOULD NOT MISUSE IT FOR DOWNGRADING THEIR OWN CULTURE . APING WESTERN CULTURE IS BAD

Aping Taliban culture is bad by Rajesh on 09 Feb 2009

Freedom is essentail for everyone as long as they are in the ambit of the law. Just because I want to have a good time in a pub does not mean I am uncultured. Anyway what culture are we following in India, corruption, domestic violence, superstition, child marriage, dowry harassment ,lack of civic sense,selfishness etc

talibanisation by manoj on 08 Feb 2009

why do you want to control women. let them do what they want. i am so sad to see so many people are supporting what sri ram sene are doing.

senas by Kattar Singh on 08 Feb 2009

if BJP comes to power Ramsena, Bajrangdal, sivasena, Balu sena, will become all powerful and start collecting haftas

Renuka, your party has talibanised Kerala with open alliance with Muslim League for 30 years. by KP Pillai on 08 Feb 2009

The Congress definitely talibanised Kerala State, with its alliance with the Muslim League for over three decades. Its League partners even replaced national flag from the post at Calicut Airport, with their party flag. One can spot pro-Pakistan posters in the bastion of this partner of the Congress. Congress has openly encouraged the terrorism of Muslim League in this state, which now reached at a point of arrest of 9 of their men for the Bangalore explosions. Is Renuka aware of this?

CONGRESS TALIBANISED KERALA WITH ITS LONG ALLIANCE WITH MUSLIM LEAGUE by Thomas Varghese on 08 Feb 2009

RENUKA'S PARTY IN KERALA HAS GREATLY CONTRIBUTED TO GROW TERRORISM, THE ARREST OF 9 KERALA MEN IN THE BANGALORE EXPLOSIONS IS THE RECENT EXAMPLE. THE NATION DESERVES AN UNCONDITIONAL APOLOGY FROM THE CONGRESS FOR ITS OPEN ALLIANCE WITH MUSLIM LEAGUE.

U need reality check by Lady on 08 Feb 2009

Cannot believe such rabid statements about the freedom of women and the state's inability to support this basic constitutional right. Cannot believe that women would actually go against their own sisters and support violence to women. This indicates how brainwashed they are, and how much they have internalised that women are supposed to be brutalised. why dont men take responsibility for their hormones?

Better Ram Sena than Renuka by Meenakshi Bhansali on 08 Feb 2009

I am not an admirer of Ram Sena, but I would prefer their influence to Renuka's, any day.

Renauka's Rantings by IRA on 08 Feb 2009

Where was Ms Renuka when tourism in Goa was shattered by repeated rape and even killing of young women tourists by bouncers of PUBS? May be she needed HIGHEST Congress command permission to even speak about those gory incidents!

Indian culture by Rene on 08 Feb 2009

Why is that whenever anyone wants to send a message about culture it is always the woman who has to suffer. If Ram Sena has an issue with the negative effects of pub culture on Indian society, they could have gheraoed the pub, or got in the authorities to check how many of the drinkers were less than 18. Why didn't they attack the boys in the pub? Were they scared that the boys would hit them back and they would look like idiots? At least the Talibans were impartial - they made the ladies wear huge burkas and the men grow beards. But wait how can I forget - Indian culture is about harassing the woman- dowry deaths, torturing widows, child marriage, torturing daughter-in-laws, raping the wife, forced marriages, etc. Last question - Going out with your fiance/husband/boyfriend for Valentine's is against Indian culture, but dancing all night for nine nights with strangers is allowable as per Indian culture- right? We do have a very strange culture.

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