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Posted: Jul 20, 2009 at 1251 hrs IST
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New Delhi Environment and Forest Minister Jairam Ramesh on Monday ran into fresh trouble in Parliament for replying to questions in English when a BJP member objected to it in the Rajya Sabha, leading to uproar in the House.

Trouble arose during the Question Hour when Ramesh replied in English to a supplementary put to him in Hindi, triggering a sharp reaction from Kalraj Mishra (BJP) who asked why was he not replying in Hindi despite being fluent in it.

To this Ramesh commented in Hindi: "Kalraj Mishraji yeh Mulayam Singhji ki bimari aap ko bhi pahuch gayi hai (this 'disease' of Mulyam Singh Yadav has reached you)", referring to the SP leader raising in Lok Sabha the issue of ministers being fluent in Hindi but using English.

The minister's remark drew flak from the BJP, SP and BSP members, who said Hindi was not a disease.

Chairman Hamid Ansari then said both the languages could be used in the House and members should not make an issue out of a non-issue.

"This (original) question was asked in English and the minister has the right to answer it in English," he ruled.

But this did not pacify the members who kept protesting against Ramesh's remark till the Chair ruled that any comment against the national language would be expunged.

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No to Hindi Racism by No2HindiRacism on 28 Jul 2009

You are right - Matra Basha - Means Other Language. For Tamils and other Hindi is just another language. Only difference, the central government uses Tax payers money to impose it - from trains to CBSE schools.Problem is that it does not end with that. There is these propaganda stickers in trains saying only Hindians are Indian while others are foreigners, selection based on Hindi instead of technical knowledge and others, lineancy for Hindi speaking offenders in trains without even a fine (very common to see in South). That is true indication of Indian racism.

Hindi is our national language by Raj on 24 Jul 2009

If Tamil was our national language (spoken by over 40% of Indians) I as a North Indian would have felt very proud it it were recognised internationally. People who refuse to reognise Hindi as our Matra Bhasha are the real frogs living in a well.

Language trouble by Hero Vaz on 21 Jul 2009

The Minister should have answered in Tamil, an Indian language. That would have put the Hindi fanatics in their place.

He is supposed to be fluent in Hindi by Vinod on 21 Jul 2009

Not sure why the minister inspite of being fluent in hindi did not reply in hindi. Is it possible that he did not want to give a straight forward answer?Please give me a break on "English" as the reason for steering the country on the world stage stuff. Any country that has a combination of smart, hard working, educated people and with a little luck can put their country on the "world stage". The japanese, korean and chinese people are testament to that. What percentage of these people know english and can communicate effectively. Can you even imagine a french minister talking in english in the french parliament or an italian minister talking english in the Italian parliament.Unfortunately knowledge of english is how we Indians differentiate a "cultured" person from an "uncultured" one. We Indians perceive our languages, culture and religions to be inferior. The disease is within each one of us.

He is supposed to be fluent in Hindi by august on 23 Jul 2009

aInternational arena,not merely a french parliament,has English colonial roots,based on fluency in English. United India is a prime example of unity through English.Forget this at your own peril. Agitations ,destruction of property happened through imposition of Hindi in the fifties.Just to refresh our collective memories!.Market/trade with continental Europe, Asia,Africa,Australia,UK,Middle East are English based. What is Hindi after all. An offshoot of Sanskrit?...a foreign primitive language? What unity would be achieved under Sanskrit?..nobody understands or fluent in it!

Napkin by Napkin on 21 Jul 2009

hindi is a like a napkin to me, i will use it when i need it and throw it when i don't need it. north belts should not mandate what i should speak and eat. it is not your business guys to dictate. if you love hindi out your kid in hindi medium school, speak only hindi in your life, sign in hindi, work with in north india (where hindi is used, bczoz south always shows the door out for hindi) and watch hindi movies and hindi channels only.If you do the above you will look like a fool sorry Mulayam.

JAIRAM RAMESH'S REPLY IN ENGLISH by K. SUNDARAMURTHY on 21 Jul 2009

ENGLISH IS LINGUA FRANCA OF THE WORLD. ENGLISH IS VERY LARGLY SPOKEN AND UNDERSTOOD NEXT ONLY TO CHINESE. HINDI IS UNDER DEVELOPED AND DIVIDES THE NATION ON LINGUISTIC LINES. ENGLISH INTEGRATES INDIA.

Mr. JAIRAM RAMESH'S REPLY IN ENGLISH by K. SUNDARAMURTHY on 21 Jul 2009

LET ME ASK SOME QUESTIONS TO HINDI PATRIOTS.(HINDI ZEALOTS DO NOT ACCEPT AS PATRIOT PEOPLE WHO DO NOT KNOW HINDI). ARE YOU SENDING YOUR CHILDREN TO PURELY HINDI MEDIUM SCHOOLS WITH REAL PATRIOTISM?.AND ALSO I ASK HINDI PATRIOTS WHETHER SOME OF THEM CONDUCTING EXPORT BUSINESS WITHOUT USAGE OF ENGLISH?. DO THEY KNOW JUSTICE CHAGLA RULED THAT THE ENGLISH IS VERY VERY INDIAN IN NATURE?

English the " Lingua franca" of India! by august on 21 Jul 2009

Grow up all you regional despots. Your regional bigotry is drowning India into a quagmire of disintegration. Learn English that has transformed the lives of at least 300 million Indians that steer the country on the world stage. English is a gift that fell into our laps through the colonial civilisation of India. To reverse this legacy of our past would be disasterous

Hindi is our national language by Raj on 21 Jul 2009

Hindi is the most widespread language spoken in India. According to 2001 census over 40% of Indians use Hindi as their mother language. It is a shame that people like Satyam will talk about splitting the country on the basis of language. No we are not going to split our country on the basis of different languages spoken. We are so privileged that so many cultures, beliefs, religions coexist in harmony in this great nation of ours. We need to respect all languages spoken in North, South, East and West but have to recognise the fact that Hindi is our national language. Jai ho!

Hindi is a regional language by Taj on 21 Jul 2009

there is no national language. we only have mulayam and laloo club idiots who have difficulty in using enlish and promote hindi. Hindi will vanish in slowly. enlgish lives for ever. Long live India

jairam was misunderstood by richa on 20 Jul 2009

DONT YOU GUYS REALISE THAT JAIRAM DIDNT MEAN THAT HINDI WAS A DISEASE.. RATHER THAT THE ACT OF INSISTING OF SPEAKING IN HINDI WHEN YOU CAN UNDERSTAND ENGLISH WAS AN IRRITANT FOR HIM.

A matter of common sense by Bemused on 20 Jul 2009

Before we get into the Hindi vs. English debate, it just seems to me to be a matter of simple common sense to give the answer in Hindi if a question is asked in Hindi; and answer in english if the question is posed in English. Clearly, the honorable minister JayramJi played a mischief by unnecessarily dragging in MulayamJi and his bimari. I am no fan of any jokers but this was clearly uncalled for. Now, MulayamJi with his ego hurt will say something, then there will be demands for apologies, then Madam will get involved and these clowns will nontinue nonsensical talk at the expense of us, the tax-payers. Stay tuned. There is more to come.

What is the problem with Hindi by Hansraj H. Adhwani on 20 Jul 2009

What is it with our South Indian friends? They act as if English is their "mother tongue" and they were all born speaking English. English is a foreign language they learned with effort. Surely they can make the same effort to learn the national language, Hindi, as did our beloved Italian supremo, king-maker, the final decider and approver, Goddess incarnate SoniaJi.

Mr. Adhwani, When you learn... by Raj on 22 Jul 2009

When a significant portion of the Hindi belt learns Tamil or Bengali or Telugu or Marathi (or another Indian language), then let's talk about more people tolerating the imposition of Hindi on the rest of us.If you believe that your language deserves a higher place in India than any other, you're dreaming.Won't happen.

Divisive Hindi by august on 23 Jul 2009

Remember the fifties when imposition of Hindi created riots and property destruction?.. and started this invidious Sons of the Soil movement by RSS?.. It was only through the strength of the English speaking south that diffused somewhat that disruptive trend in our society.

hindi is the problem by hindi is the problem on 21 Jul 2009

there is no problem with the south indians. whatz wrong with you fanatic northy guy? why don't you read only hindi web sites and comment in hindi? time and again there is no national language in our constitution. there are billions of indits in india like you who needs to be educated

Reply to Mr Hansraj Adhwani by indian citizen on 20 Jul 2009

"Pandering to the so-called-non-Hindi speakers.Sixty years is more than enough to learn your national language?" And who decides which is the 'national language'? The semi literates from Northern India ? Beware, India is inhabited by people whose first language may not be Hindi and we have absolutely no intention of handing over an unreasonable and unfair advantage to these illiterate buffoons, which would be the case if Hindi is given primacy.I am sure inhabitants of TN,AP,Kerala,Karnataka,Maharashtra,Guj,W B.,Assam,Meghalaya,Nagaland,Mizoram,Tripura,Manipur and Arunachal Pradesh fully agree with me.By the way, for the record, I myself am not a South Indian but from Maharashtra a state which took a leading part in the freedom struggle with Hindi as a compulsory language in school and look at what we have got in 60 years of independence,a couple of millions of unlettered migrants from UP and Bihar who are out to replicate their badlands in Mumbai and other parts of the state!

frog and well by arun kumar on 21 Jul 2009

a frog who lived in a well thought the world ens there, know now why Indians get beaten in OZ, because people with narrower vision than yours live there.

Agree by Bharat on 20 Jul 2009

I fully agree with you.

English vs Hindi controversy by Sathyam Jayanth on 20 Jul 2009

Years ago, when I joined Tatas in Bombay as a graduate apprentice engineer, I was talking to my cousin over phone, to meet for dinner at a popular restaurant. My colleague, another apprentice engineer from Kanpur, obviously listening to this phone talk, asked me why I spoke to my cousin in English and not in my mother tongue. I told him that I use language as a tool for communication and will always choose the one I am comfortable with and also the one the other person can understand! As simple as that. I studied sanskrit for 14 years in school and college and I can read Hindi easily. I will force myself to speak in Hindi ot some other language to a person ONLY IF THE OTHER PERSON DOES NOT SPEAK or UNDERSTAND ANY OTHER LANGUAGE. Period. This Hindi fanaticism among the BIMARU crowd is as bad as the Islamic fanaticism among the moslems. We may succeed in eliminating the Islamic fanaticism but can we eliminate the Hindi fanaticism??

Hindi-English "Bemari" by Dr. Ram Chander Sharma on 20 Jul 2009

Our Politicians don't spare anything to politicise and befool Indians. What is wrong in the language as in Parliament there are translaters and answer can be taken all the sheduled languages. Respect all the languages of the world.

let me tell you a joke by arun kumar on 20 Jul 2009

A MP from a southern state was repeatedly disturbing Late Ram Manohar Lohia when he was making a point in Hindi. Lohia ji smiled and obliged by speaking a few words in English which went over his head - Lohia ji then said "You live in Delhi amd know few words in Hindi, but if you press me to spaek in English you will understand nothing - what do you want? Late Lohia had a very rich vocubulary. Question is not language - but its status. 20 Years back I could not get my address changed for a gas cylinder - as I always spoke in Hindi. My gas agent said send someone else to the officer in Indian Oil who speaks English and your work will be done in minutes. Look at the language our PM speaks - it is neither English nor Punjabi - we have no sense of phonetics. With due respect to my South Indian brothers - when one listens you speak english - it is a melody to ears and one is tempted to learn Tamil, Telegu, Kannad or Malyalam - even British did not know English could be so melodious.

Joker by Dr Raj on 20 Jul 2009

There's no langauge called "Kannad", if you refering to Kannada, the state langauge of Karnataka...its true we don't have a sense of phonetics other than Hindi, Shriman Arun Kumar...

Hindi and English by Hansraj H. Adhwani on 20 Jul 2009

English is a beautiful language and so is Hindi. The fact is that even today, a majority of Indians cannot speak English properly. Those who think they are speaking English typically speak Hinglish - an inarticulate form of broken English in incomplete sentences delivered in horrible accents that sound like Tamil or Punjabi or whatever. Despite more than half a century of independence and considerable national pride, our servile attitude is evident in the ubiquitous usage of the British relic "Sir" to address anybody in a position of power. The Chinese do not conduct the affairs of state in English and neither do the Japanese, Russians or Spaniards. We must study and master the English language, but let us conduct all official business uniformly in our own language - Hindi. Enough is enough about pandering the so-called non-Hindi speakers. Sixty years is more than enough to learn your national language.

English vs Hindi by Satyam Jayanth on 20 Jul 2009

Hansraj, the last sentence in your post bares your Hindi fanaticism. OK. You don't have to "pander" to the rest of us. Let us split up the country into 22 different countries based on the languages so that you can have your country of Hindi language!! OK with you??

First things first by indian citizen on 20 Jul 2009

Your advice is...we should emulate the Chinese,Japanese,Russians etc all these also have a common civil code for all their citizens. Shouldn't we have that too? Or do u go only after easy targets?

what fanticism? by jay on 20 Jul 2009

What fanaticism you are talking about here Satyam? What you are proposing is fanaticism. isn't it? I do not understand one thing, people in the southern 4 states are so opposed to learning hindi, stating that it will threaten our own language and heritage.. Why doesn't same applies when they learn and communicate in English? Strange it is.. isn't it? Anyway... it should be matter of pride to be able to speak the national language. I can not see anything bad in learning another language and even using it?.. Come on it can only be advantageous.. isn't it?

Stupid Hindi by Bharat on 20 Jul 2009

jay, we don't give a damn about this stupid hindi. Satyam is right. you all ill minded hindi fantics always market it. What does Hansraj mean "our own language". It is not our language. for us Hindi and Enlgish are both aliens and we prefer to be global so we speak english. we have suceeded in showing hindi the doors to hell inthe past 60 yrs and we will continue to do so. there is no pride in speakin hindi. If you fanatics are so ashamed about speaking english since it is from brits, why in the hell are you still using the same parliment, railway tracks etc built by them.

Dear all by arun kumar on 20 Jul 2009

1) A country is identified by its geography, language and culture. I believe that every one has the right to learn, and express in one's mother tongue, irrespective of the region.2)All Indian languages are derivatives of Sanskrit, including Hindi. There is no clash or competition between them. English is a foreign language and an international language and should get her due respect. Problem arises with words such as cow belt, BIMARU, North India etc. etc. How do you feel if some one calls you Madrasi,Illar etc. etc.We have a 3 language formula which is working well and there is no debate on that. Main question was - If 2 Indians know a common Indian language - then is it necessary for them to speak in a foreign language? This was the game plan of British - Indians will fight amongst each other and will try to pull each other down, for language, caste, religion - your kind words against your own countrymen prove it - does it give you any pride? or are you ashamed?

Hindi by G.Dwarakanath on 20 Jul 2009

Nowhere in the constitution is Hindi said to be "the" national language. It is declared as the official language of the centre for official purposes. English is also to be used in a similar manner for as long as the non=Hindi people want it. The schedule lists the National languages of India that includes Tamil, Kannada, Telugu, Malayalam, Bengali and Oriya among others. It is no use for Hindi lovers to shout that their kanguage is "the" national language and others are "regional" languages. Do the Hindi lovers want a re-enactment of the Tamil Nadu agitation in the Sixties against the imposition of Hindi?

Reply to Nitin by indian citizen on 20 Jul 2009

If Hindi is indeed the national language and belongs to the whole of India, then you should first force our politicians,including those from the cow belt to send their children to Hindi medium schools only and then advise others about the merits of the language. And if there has to be a single language for the entire nation, will you apologists for Hindi dare apply the same principle to the desirability for a Common Civil Code for all Indian citizens irrespective of religion? Fact is even though it might have been given the questionable status of a national language it will just give an unreasonable advantage to the semi literate masses from North India who don't value education of any sort or law and order for that matter.Their migration in tens of thousands to non-Hindi states for a living is proof that knowing just Hindi apparently doesn't fill stomachs!No way!Imposition of Hindi at the cost of English in India will make me sup with the Devil if need be, to oppose you!

make Sanskrit the official language by Dr Santosh Kamath on 20 Jul 2009

I am a South Indian but I agree strongly that we must speak to the world in our own language rather than using a relic of the colonial world.A language must express the soul of a people and unfortunately English is not the solution.In an ideal world Hindi would have been the apt choice but than it leads to fears of domination by the Hindiwalas to many other Indians.In this respect I believe that Sanskrit would be the right choice.It is the only Indian language which is equally unknown to most Indians.It has a well developed literature,almost perfect grammer and has a well evolved medical and technological vocabulary.If the minorities do feel threatened than let us compromise on the script to re assure them. Sanskrit is the very essence of our collective psyche and it is now the right time to make it our national language. Jai Hind!

Satosh - North India by Dr Kevin on 20 Jul 2009

Santosh - your name indicates that you are from the north. Keep your sanskrit in cow belt. we don't need it.

Well said by Andy on 20 Jul 2009

Well said Jairam Ramesh. Hindi is certainly not a bimaari as rightly said by agitated MPs..but sure will become a dreaded disease with country wide ramifications if the MPs from the cow belt dont stop behaving like lumpens and learn to respect other languages

Is this the best BJP can come up with? by arun lal on 20 Jul 2009

What the hell is wrong with BJP guys? Manmohan Singh sold off India's strategic interests and these guys are worried English vs Hindi! No wonder they can't win elections.

Aw...come on by Roy on 20 Jul 2009

Rightly said...an Indian citizen...Hindi is the national language but English is the business language most Indians use except, the majority of yokels from the so called northern cw belt.

Ceazy!!! by Boy on 20 Jul 2009

Tired of reading the comments from fools like you still calling Hindi as national language. THERE IS NO NATIONAL LANGUAGE FOR INDIA. Read the cosntitution and go to a doctor for physcological treatment.

Hindi is our national language by Raj on 10 Aug 2009

Hindi is our national language. You are the biggest moron. You dosa eaters are socially handicapped people. I have seen how you dhoti-clad ugly people live in North America.

No domination by Hindi will be tolerated by indian citizen on 20 Jul 2009

I wish to make it quite clear that English is one of the official languages of India along with Hindi. No power in India certainly none from the BIMARU states nor anyone of the likes of semi literates like Mulayam or Laloo can force Hindi down the throats of other Indians whose first language is not Hindi. How dare can our Hindi belt politicians equate someone's lack of fluency in Hindi with not being Indian? I dare these politicians to even try to eliminate English and substitute that with Hindi and see the turmoil that ensues! The semi literates from Northern India had better not try to impose their mother tongue on those who speak other Indian languages, they are free not to talk to us if they so choose but English as a link and one of the official language of India will remain for all time to come! No one dare change that if they want India to remain in one piece and prosper !

Hindi by Nitin on 20 Jul 2009

First of all, hindi is not a north indian language, it is official language of india and English is "subsidiary official language", which i believe every indian should know irrespective of north, east, south or west its official language. These south indian guys can learn arabic in middle east, they feel shame when it comes to learning Hindi. May i ask them good reason for it? Every country respect its national language, Whether it's Europe, China or Middle East. I dont mind, if Kalraj Mishra asks him to answer in hindi. Since it is our internal discussion, we are not dealing with any foreign agencies, that we need to answer in English. English is a global language, for doing business on common platform. All countries give preference to their language only, when it comes to their internal matter and they are progressing.

IndiEEEEEEEEE by Bitin on 20 Jul 2009

English and Hindi have the same status. There is no subsiduary official language. fools like you invent all these new jorgans and cheat the world. I beleive all Indians should bycott HINDI. How is this ??!!Learning HINDI is shame. only illeterates do that.

Hindi or English by Arun on 20 Jul 2009

I beg to differ. For South Indians like me, Hindi is as alien as English and we do not have any emotional attachment with it. If someone forces me to reply in Hindi, I will stoutly refuse that. Of course, if I am in a place where Hindi is the spoken language, I will speak to the people in Hindi. I guess that our parliament has people with languages other than Hindi as their mother tongue. So, Jairam Ramesh has a right to reply in English to a question put up in Hindi.

Hindi by Gopal on 20 Jul 2009

It is this attitude of teh Hindi speaking belt people that puts the back up of a lot of south indians who would very happily learn Hindi for usage but would not like to be forced to learn by a section of nincompoops

Speaking in Hindi by S Krishnan on 20 Jul 2009

I don't deny that everybody should learn the National language and for your information thousands of people in South India learn Hindi through either school or through Dakshin Bharath Hindi Prachar Sabha program. Learning Hindi does not make you fluent to speak and this is gained by regular conversations. In office/school we speak English and hence if we start speaking in Hindi at our homes, then where will we speak in our mother tongue.

Congress is the real heir of Raj by arun kumar on 20 Jul 2009

What is new in it? British when left made sure that Nehru - Gandhi dynasty will continue the style of RAJ, therefore congressmen chant in “English” stability, continuance etc.? Our PM pronounces “Joint statement” as “Giant statement”, why Mulayam ji, even I do not understand the meaning of PM's speech when made in English. Jairam Ramesh is after all from ruling class and not aam aadmi - therefore he speaks the language of ruling (giant) class - Kalraj and Mulayam both failed to understand this. Hindi is a National language but enjoys the status that of Mahatma Gandhi on wall of a BAR.

Medical help by kumar arun on 20 Jul 2009

dude, don't jump to policits. we are disucssing the language here. 1) there is no national language for india2) if you like mulayam and lakraj then go to UP and live with your ji as a illeterate3) govt of india will spend my tax money to feed fools like you

Indias malady by dismayed on 20 Jul 2009

The british divided us and ruled over us for this very reason- our lack of unity. What language you speak in and reply in does not matter, as long as you are successful in communicating your message. The politicians thrive on creating rifts between people and they have succeeded quite effortlessly, seeing all you morons!!

Hindi is not the National Language of India by Bhanu on 20 Jul 2009

Hindi is not a National Language of India. In fact there is no national language in Indian Constitution. These Hindi zealots have self-crowned Hindi as a national language but others do not recognise this self-granted status. Hindi is just one among the other Indian languages and has no special attributes. After all there are many other Indian languages that are older and richer in history and literary merit than Hindi.

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