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We can’t be held responsible for Varun's speech: BJP

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Posted: Mar 20, 2009 at 1550 hrs IST

New Delhi Distancing itself from Varun Gandhi's hate speeches, the BJP told the Election Commission that his remarks do not represent the views of the party even as it asked the poll panel to check the genuineness of the CD containing the comments.

"The Bharatiya Janata Party categorically states that it completely disagrees, disassociates and disapproves the contents of the CD as sent to us," party leader R Ramakrishna said in his single page reply to an EC notice.

Even assuming that a speech has been delivered by a member of the party, these contents do not represent the views of the party or its policies, it added.

Election Commission had issued a notice to BJP and Varun Gandhi, the party's candidate from Pilibhit, on the alleged anti-Muslim speeches made by him early this month.

However, the party avoided mentioning Varun as an official candidate in the reply. "Merely because a member of the party has expressed views contrary to what the party stands for, the party cannot be vested with any responsibility," the BJP said, adding ‘the party is also independently looking into the matter.’

While stating that BJP was unaware of the speech by Varun till its contents were telecast by news channels, the letter asked EC to check the authenticity of the CD.

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Playing the religion card by suraj on 22 Mar 2009

What is said in the tapes is despicable but we have to remember Varun is not the only politician using the religion card. Remember Amar singha and Mamta Banerjee going around saying that the terrorists killed in New Delhi a few months before Mumai incident were really "innicent"muslims targeted by the police falsely. How about this minister named Antuly who went around saying there was a conspiracy in the killing of the policde officers by the Mumbai terrorists. These people were playing a worse religion card. These people were willing to sell the credibility of the whold security forces of the country to gain a few minority votes. Let's be fair and stand up against all forms of divisive politics. Lets not vote for Varun, Amar Singh, Mamta Banerjee. I just wonder who is going to be left if we exclude all that have plaed the religion card for their own benefit. And most of them are probably not in the BJP.

Bania party by bad guy on 21 Mar 2009

BJP is a party of banias and small traders who in the first opportunity will sell India.Beware people

just take a walk by harun on 21 Mar 2009

dilip living lives in a nation were the law is supreme and wants it that way in france but chooses to dilute the law in india.As you live there just keep out even if the steps taken by EC may be just cosmetic there is no way zealots like you have the right to adulterate bloggers mind by fabricating your malicious ideas.Whatever the truth if the guy has indeed done it then he must be sent to jail.Thats it.Why blame the media what have they done.We all thought that all radicals form a lunatic fringe in a society but neverthless they have very strong presence.

Varun by Raj Kumar Sinha on 21 Mar 2009

Not a debatable subject at all. It is election time and every aspirant prefers to get votes by exclaiming subjects of no value for the country. Let it be decided by the voters of Pilhibit. No one can stop the leaders like the present one except by the voters.

Zealous to liberate from prejudices and pretentious clutches of Cong/UPA by romesh.sharma on 21 Mar 2009

Varun's speech is mere words while others from Congress and UPA,ripe and senior politicians,are doing hateful actions/practicing hate practically.In every statement/speech and action the depict their deep rooted hate and antipathy against Hindus and their system.This all for vote-bank to retain and gain power.Playing pranks and illegitimately pandering particular communities/miorities is less act of hate and injustice to the people who have legitimate rights to be treated equals if not above others.Its not the disease alone that one should care for but the reasons,the cause of the disease.Apparently its Congress' appeasements and creating divisions.To safeguardindivisual and national morals/interests at a time when the dissolution or enfeeblement of religious belief,caused by exercising colourful use of power,is disturbing the very foundations on which the Nation stands.Not only faith but it jeopardizes the nation's integration.Varun chose to act than mere reasoning to check menace

Dilip - Show some common sense ! by Naim Naqvi on 21 Mar 2009

"A forthright and no-nonsense politician !" Will someone advice Mr. Dilip to go through the dictionary and find out the meanings of the two accolades he had bestowed upon this emerging blockhead of Indian politics know as Varun Gandhi. This kid is showing all the evil effects of bad breeding and insecure childhood in its worst manfestations. No sensible human being close to ground realities of our motherland would condone to what Varun has said. Living in a far away land Dilip is totally unaware that today's India is a totally different from what these fanatics, irrespective of their religious affiliations want it to be. We are forward looking nation where Hindus and Muslims love and respect each other and willing to forgo the mistakes of their ancestors who were, of course, not perfect. The politics of hate is not acceptable to the new emerging India. Mr. Dilip, please try to be optimistic and don't try to be an unwanted obstacle in the forward march of our beloved nation.

JAI HO!!!!!!!!!! VARUN!!!!!!!!! by B.SRIDHAR on 21 Mar 2009

ONCE AGAIN THE ENTIRE EPISODE HAS BEEN BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION AND THE E.C HAS TURNED INTO AN OVERDRIVE MODE TO FIX VARUN. WHAT HAS THE EC DONE TO DEBAR ALL THESE CROOKS AND CRIMINALS. I DONT KNOW WHERE ANAND LIVES. BUT THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS THAT ALL THESE POLITICAL PARTIES HAVE REDUCED HINDUS FEEL TOTALLY IGNORED AND ALL MUST AGREE TO THE FACT THAT THE DEFINITION OF SECULARISM IS HINDUISM BASHING. VARUN HAS RIGHTLY POINTED OUT THE IGNONIMY OF THE HINDUS. THE NAQVIS ANDHUSSAINS ARE SCARED OF LOSING THE ELECTIONS. MORE OVER, THE UPA GOVT IS PERHAPS THE SECOND WORST GOVT INDIA HAS EVER HAD ONLY NEXT TO THE GUJRAL AND GOWDA GOVTS. UPA HAS DONE PRECIOUS LITTLE IN TERMS OF FORIEGN POLICY, INTERNAL SECURITY AND INFLATION MANAGEMENT. THIS GOVT IS A TOTAL FAIALURE AND MUST BE VOTED OUT. PLEASE DO NOT VOTE FOR THIRD FRONT EITHER. LET ALL OF US GET UNITED AND VOTE OUT THIS GOVT. AND BRING BACK THE OLDEN DAYS WHERE HINDUS AND MUSLIMS LIVED TOGETHER PEACEFULLY.

BJP by omar on 21 Mar 2009

Any political party would have acted the same way BJP acted, but the problem with them is their main agenda of hindutva, which has to be modified and the party members have to be taught how to act as a real hindutva rather than speech.If you speak EC will catch but if you act nobody can catch,like the destruction of Babri Masjid incident.for that incident Narashima rao to be jailed not BJP, the point here is Rao did not speak but he acted justly to Hindutva from his heart no matter which party he belonged.BJP should be appreciated in one way that they publicly announce their hindutva plans but others act towards it in a different way by concealing hindutva in their hearts.India is a democratic country and any hate speech aganist any community is a crime but hats off to BJP, they speak and act aganist some communities but still exist at large due to peoples like Rao who pratices hindutva in his heart.Continue BJP and achieve great heights in this world.Good Luck.

VARUN GANDHI EPISODE by B S GANESH on 22 Mar 2009

It is heartening to know that at least one patriot has born in the Indira Gandhi family as VARUN GANDHI. All along the other members were dividing the country in to minority and majority only to get votes from the so called minority Muslims and were pampering them with various facilities at the cost of the exchequer and majority of citizens who are not only Hindus but various other communities like Sikh, Budihists, Jains and so on. Such politicians who divide the copuntry and protect and promote terrorists are only TRAITORS OF THE COUNTRY. It is foolishness to divide the country again as minority and majority only to encourage disputes and conspiracies and enjoy power by politicians by various dubious means. INDIA BADLY REQUIRES UNITY OF ALL PEOPLE IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR RELIGION OR CASTE OR SUB CASTE TO root out TERRORISM, POVERTY AND CORRUPTION. DUE TO TOO MANY GREEDY POLITICIANS STABILITY IS UNDER STRESS. Frankly speaking due to globalisation and good education common people are ignoring their caste and religion and even MANY INTERCASTE MARRIAGES ARE TAKING PLACE WITHOUT ANY HESITATION. RELIGION MUST BE WITHIN FOUR WALLS AND NOT IN POLITICS B S Ganesh

Varun needs real friends by Rajesh on 21 Mar 2009

This is like a father dis-owning a son after training him to hate and kill, loot and rape. Advani and Modi should have the gut to defend a young man who is walking in their path. Varun is young and needs the the help of Advani and Modi to survive. Instead of feeling insecurity for their roels, they should look into future and encourage young leaders like themselves to come up. Did they lose their spine. If BJP does not stand behind Varun, the people wil and also the RSS should take a stand and make it clear that their support will be available to people like Varun and not only to Advani and Modi. let them not take it for granted that they can disown someone like Varun ad get all the suppport for their political survival.

FAMILY FUED by B S GANESH on 22 Mar 2009

In my opinion there appears to be family problem of hatred of daughte-in-laws due to greed for power. Manika Gandhi has done lot of social work of public interest which other lady has done only political problems. Hatred increases also. In my opinion what he said is not against any religion but it is the duty of Hindu politican to protect Hindus which many do not doB S GANESH

EMPEROR OF SCAMS by Madhavan on 21 Mar 2009

Take the number of scams during NDA reign it goes like this, Ketan Parekh scam, Coffin scam, Controversial sale of Balco, scam in purchase of defence equipments, UTI scam where lot of small Investors lost their valuable money, Telecom scam of Pramod Mahajan which is being pursued in the Supreme Court, Bangaru as President of the Party accepting shamelessly wades of currency from a stranger, Judev MP who proudly proclaims that money is even bigger than God while accepting the bribe and so on. Who can forget the Cash for question scam where once again it is the BJP MPs who are caught the most, MPLAD scam and our famous Babubhai Katara, MP from Dahod who is currently in prison being caught red handed. Another thing relatively unknown is that it is the BJP which fields the largest number of criminals in any election. Despite all these, the shameless Party projects itself as a party with a difference.

Varun's case by J.M.Manchanda on 21 Mar 2009

Varun's fault was that he swore by Hindu's holy book to take law into his own hands given a certain situation. the comments were dircted against a particular community and the intent was to polarise people along religious lines in order to derive electoral benefit. This is against the word and spirit of our Constitution and law. All civilised and educated people should understand thisgame and refuse to play it. It is not a question of BJP or Congress. It is one of preaching hatred and threat to resort violence. Terrorism in thought is only one step away from terrorism in practice. That's how Taliban came into being and their creator Pakistan itself has become their target. Do we wish to to go down the same way?

Varun's case by Abdul Azeez on 26 Mar 2009

I go with Mr.J.M.Manchanda's views. Politicians are targeting religious votes. We should vote for an indian irrespective of his religion. Religion should not form a base for setting targets in winning an election. EC should ban anyone who uses such ideologies to gain votes, be it congress or BJP. Parties should come out with a practical manifesto for the economic beterment of the country. For example TURKEY is a country with majority muslims but religion is not used as an identity in the community there. Every citizen there prefers to be identified as a turkish and not as a muslim, christian etc., We should encourage well educated independent candidates who are independent of major parties.

BJP by dinesh on 21 Mar 2009

Sir, The balance of trade was in India's favor for two year's in a row during NDA's time. It did not try to buy the Government servant's loyalties by giving them a 40% pay hike like what NDA is trying to do. It did not try to give a largesse like the Rural employment scheme the Rural Loan write off schemes - which are expected to cost the exchequer in excess of 150000 crores (hope I get the zeroes right). Now who ever comes to power - the treasury is likely to remain bankrupt. All the revenues accrued to the govt is likely to be frittered away on Govt servant's salaries or in running the hare brained schemes which the UPA has initiated. There is a marked slow down in progress in infrastructure - like building roads - new power plants or laying on new rail roads. The congress will most likely come to power again - playing the casteist and communal games of which it is a (past) master. If the past 60 years of poverty not enough for us - then let us perpetuate the congress (mis)rule.

Varun's Outburst by Ashok Mehdiratta on 21 Mar 2009

In politics there is nothing like "Poor or Bechara".If the gentleman is aspiring to sit in the highest forum of country,he has to learn a proper decent language.Nations are not run by emotional outbursts.Rather than advising the youngster to learn the art of speaking,his seniors in his party are deserting him and Thakres are encouraging him.One has to abide by the constitution because our social and national fabric revolves around that.We should ensure that we maintain our Secular credentials by both Words And Deeds.If he has made this statement ,he needs to be admonished by his party.We cannot say this type of statements are " Congress Culture" as told by Naqvi( BJP's Leader).We cannot say that he is innocent because all these people plan on what they have to speak.Parties do give General guidelines to their nominees as to What are Party's policies,but in this case Varun seems to have put his foot in the mouth.Let EC and court's decide his future.

How can a candidate make a speach without consent of party. by Sunir Pathak on 21 Mar 2009

BJP equally responsible for Varun Gandhi speech. They can not fool the whole country by saying that speech made by the member of the party and not the view of the party.

Dirty religious politics by Raj on 21 Mar 2009

Dirty religious politics.BJP like parties justifies the separation of Pakistan or not integration of Bangladesh to India.Kashmiri should also be given independence as muslims are in majority there as they are in Hyderabad Deccan and we by force occupy that.

SARDAR PATEL GREAT PATRIOT by B S GANESH on 22 Mar 2009

Hyderabad came to India only due to patriotic efforts of Sardar Vallabai Patel due to his determination of war with NIzam boldly declaring " SWORDS MUST BE MET WITH SWORD ". If any other politician were in his place or even Mahatma Gandhi there would have been a Pakistan inside and might be every day wars and most Hindus wpuld have been converted.B S GANESH

Publicity at its worst level by Padhu on 20 Mar 2009

Guys, You know what this is call mere publicity... How many people in India know Varun before thin non sense speech, i wonder even if it is more than 2 percent. I actualy have respect on his mother, lone warrior for nature of India, i never expect this from her blood.

Varun,BJP by Varinder on 20 Mar 2009

BJP is responsible beacuse it is a question related to Vote Bank. Why Varun has to speak the truth openly especially during election time. He could have said the same thing in Antulay style.

Poor Varun by Jafar Zaidi on 20 Mar 2009

BJP maye distance itself from the speeches of Varun Gandhi as he has spoken in simple language. Naredra Modi is ahead of him in Muslim and Islam bashing but his wordings are cleared by BJP legal experts and edited accordingly. Varun is a kaccha khiladi therefore receiving attention of EC. Modi will say much much more without inviting any action.

Focus on the real problem. by Swapnali on 20 Mar 2009

1.What do we really believe in as being “religious” or “anti-religious”2.The integrity and competency of our political leaders. Whether he said those things or not, what is really being achieved here? Whoever is doing it, be it him or someone else causing malice, the main thing that is being achieved here is political selfishness. That’s all. The goal is to win the seat! 3.This raises questions about the method of selection of cadidates and the process applied to win these votes.4.This so called democracy fails to honour every vote cast. This is in reference to the bullying that happens on the election day.5.The qualification of the candidates to run a constituency has always been in question. It is time the eligibility was redefined.6. Political parties do not seem to have clearly defined philosophies.

Varun Gandhi, BJP and CEC by Varinder on 20 Mar 2009

Make hey while the sun shines. People's verdict will answer alleged allegations against Varun Gandhi. Truth is bound to prevail over the lie in the end.

BJP by Uday on 20 Mar 2009

If the BJP says that it is not to be held responsible for their party members views during election campaigning, what on Earth are they to be held responsible for? I hope this party is completely finished in the elections.

less iq is equal to bjp. by Nautankee on 20 Mar 2009

By using hatred against fellow human beings, the BJP leaders not only disgrace Hinduism around the world, but they also disgrace entire India.If these nincompoops thinks that they are doing a favour to our Hindu Dharma by spitting on others, then they are very much wrong. Electipon resulsts will clearly tell the truth.

Double standard of super secularists by syamala on 20 Mar 2009

Every one of us should see in Varun Gandhi A spirit that is not there in so called secular Hindus. In India practising secularim is the duty of Hindus only where as Muslims and Christians can do what ever they they want. All English news media and super secular Hindus will never forget Ghodra but they are blind and deaf to to the atrocites committed on Hundus and their culture.Islamic terror was unleashed on a wedding party in a costal village Marad near Calicut , Kerala the same time as Ghodra riots and 10people were brutally murdered and dozens of women and children were severly wouned in the attack. No one , no secularists , no social workers know about this , nor has any national news channel covered this story.so, If atall mr varun has spoken againt the menace of super secularists and anti national elements he will enjoy the full support of the majority of indians.

Pure fabrication and dadagiri. by DILIP/FRANCE on 20 Mar 2009

One must take a level headed perspective of this purported and sordid fabrication. This is still an allegation leveled against a fortright and non nonsence politician.It is little no more than a double speak and hypocrisy of those who are starting to thorise overblown political correctness and morality. The outburst has many facts and truths, which must be accepeted, however unpaltable that may be. We urge BJP not to double deal.Hindus are under siege and this is completely outrageous state of affairs,and must avoid the trap set up by crooks and propagandists.We have set up a war chest to defend the aggrieved party, and stand ready to send a emminent constitutions lawyer, to fight the E.C. who are pushing their politically correct agenda too far.This whole fascade has been engineered by the barking media and some goons who axe to grind.We say cut out the crap.

BJP by maccikhan on 21 Mar 2009

Atlast Mr. Dilip you started spitting venum again. You are still in FRANCE-What are you doing thier? Just sending hate comments. BJP needs you the most here now, Sure you will be recieved by open hands and garlands. Mr. Jaitely is least interested in the partay inview of current internal problems in the partay. You can difnitely fill this gap, and make the elections a totally Hindus prerogative and not Indians. Varun will surely be saved and you can join him to make a high spirited hate campaign to devide we the Indians. Do not miss this oppertunity failing you will have to wait for another 5 years. After all it is politics does not matter what happens to the nation. Keep dividing we the Indians and you flourish both in France and In our India to which you have abandon.

GRE : Kuchh kasar rah gai thi? by Nanga on 21 Mar 2009

Man this is not your fault too much cramming for GRE. But kuchh kasar baki thi isliye USA ki jagah France me admission mili tumko.

Act of neo nationalism. by Shukoor on 20 Mar 2009

The claim that Hindus are under seige has been heard since long time now.This is a dirty political agenda pushed by Sanghis to grab power.They were never loyal to this nation..nor yet.BJP politicians will play worse games than this...it is their nature and history.did anyone ever heard any good word about Gandhi from these anti-national groups?..who do they admire?..the killer of Gandhi.Hindus are simply taken granted by these goons who spread misinformations and violence in the nation for vote bank politics.Nothing will happen to 80

Very biased perspective by Desi Pundit on 20 Mar 2009

How are you level headed in referring BJPites the only Hindus. According to you, anybody else is crook or propagandist. And you are talking about "level headed perspective". I say typical hypocritical rant of BJP 'bander', I say.

Leave France and go to India to rescue BJP by AP on 20 Mar 2009

What a laughable argument! If BJP is caught doing wrong things then it is fabrication and dadagiri. What a logic! Dilip does not even know the facts. There is not only a video of Varun's speech but there were jounalist who were present at that meeting confirming the speech. So stop spreading your hate propoganda just like Varun.

Varun Gandhi by Ravi on 20 Mar 2009

Blah, blah and some more blah. "Hindus are under seige" it seems!. My foot they are!. Can you show us how and where Hindus are under siege? You, your hero Varun Gandhi and such hate speakers are under siege, rightly so. And, yes, your fanatical brains and its stupidest fantasies are also under siege. Feels betrayed by your own party, BJP? Sorry dude, it is election time. Varun Gandhi is just an overgrown scumbag whose only qualification in Politics is his last name. Oh, yes, he has "foot in the mouth" disease too.

Hindus are under seige by Harry on 22 Mar 2009

Hindus are under seige not by Muslims, but by secularist Hindus who are spiritual descendents of thousand of Hindus, who collobarated with various invaders in last thousand years. Their morality is similar to that of African slave traders, who were kidnapping and selling off their fellow black people to European slave traders for profit.

RAVI by SAINT on 20 Mar 2009

Ravi, you are great, You are a king of sheep for bleating,This column is for people like you.Son Look at History. By the way you have failed history. I know. Do you know the Hindus have lost their country at one time. It was fully taken over by Buddhism, The saints Sankarachariars have rekindled Hinduism,Later Muslims ruled India. Then the British. When British abondoned India , they make sure they gave India to the people who will ruin it. The Hindus have no direction. They are sheep like you bleating going after money , fame all the time. You forgoten the latest MUmbai incident, Who caused it, son? One day you will be a victim of terrorism like the Mumbai.Only your parents will cry for you. No one else.Therefore don,t bleat any more. And follow the leadership qualities of Varun.I see Netaji's vigour in Varun. Hindus need him. So is India.

ARUN GANDHI CONTROVERSY by B S GANESH, on 21 Mar 2009

It is heartening to know that at least one patriot has born in the Indira Gandhi family as VARUN GANDHI. All along the other members were dividing the country in to minority and majority only to get votes from the so called minority Muslims and were pampering them with various facilities at the cost of the exchequer and majority of citizens who are not only Hindus but various other communities like Sikh, Budihists, Jains and so on. Such politicians who divide the copuntry and protect and promote terrorists are only TRAITORS OF THE COUNTRY. It is foolishness to divide the country again as minority and majority only encourage disputes and conspiracies and enjoy power by politicians by various dubious means. INDIA BADLY REQUIRES UNITY OF ALL PEOPLE IRRESPECTIVE OF THEIR RELIGION OR CASTE OR SUB CASTE TO TERRORISM, POVERTY AND CORRUPTION. DUE TO TOO MANY GREEDY POLITICIANS STABILITY IS UNDER STRESS. Frankly speaking due to globalisation and good education common people are ignoring their caste and religion and even MANY INTERCASTE MARRIAGES ARE TAKING PLACE WITHOUT ANY HESITATION. RELIGION MUST BE WITHIN FOUR WALLS AND NOT IN POLITICSB S Ganesh

BJP is caught red handed by Anand on 20 Mar 2009

BJP is full of fools and now they want to make all Indians fool. It is very simple.. Varun was caught red handed making a hate speech. He is party's official candidate of the party. So he belongs to bjp. So shut up bjp and get rid of Varun.

Is it crime? by Saint on 21 Mar 2009

Talking about truth is not a crime! I think these ppl dont know the rest of the world. I think Varun did a good thing that he spoke out what he feels. I like that spirit. At least I can understand there some people who saves the spiritual feelings of many.

your idiotic mail by mahender singh on 21 Mar 2009

your are an idiot. The day is not far away when you too would be be named as whose against varum spoke of.

BJP is not Congress by AK Singh on 20 Mar 2009

People do not become slaves of the BJP by joining BJP unlike Congress leaders. BJP leaders have individuality and the Party does not tie them down. So, although a BJP candidate, Mr Varun is free to express his opinion also, even if he has made the disputed statement. Aren't all the present Congress leaders been in prominent position when Mrs Indira Gandhi was PM and continued to be the "house slave" with Rajiv, Sonia, Rahul, Priyanka and continue in that situation even with Priyankas/Rahuls children and grant children??? That is the difference.

BJP and Congress by Ashraf on 21 Mar 2009

BJP is not congress.Congress doesn't admire Nathu Godse as Sanghis do.Congress never had any president who sold himself for money like Bankarulakshman did.Congress never had any MP who forged his wife with another woman to smuggle her and child to Canada.Also, Congress has a policy which lays foundation for unity of our people but what BJP does?..divisive and hate mongers..it never has any policy to unite Indians except spreading violence around the nation under the guise of Hindutva...which infact is a malice to tents of true Hindusim.In that sense, indeed, BJP is not congress...also no Sanghi leaders were ever part of our freedom fight.

Congress lost charm by Saint on 21 Mar 2009

To get money and power, the cong will go to any extend. Its been proved when they tied up with Left party. So, no wonder if they auction india to some other country for a better price.

Fawning by Rabri on 21 Mar 2009

People saw with their naked eyes Arjun Singh and Amar Singh wiping shits of Priyanka's kids.But Lalu ji could not do that that why shivraj has become HM.

BJP is not congress indeed by Shukoor on 21 Mar 2009

Very true statement...BJP is the only party in our state that sell its votes for money...it is the only party which had a president who sold himself in a fake arms deal and caught red-handed when takes money...it is the only party which had an MP who duped his wife with another woman to smuggle her and child to Canada.And it is the only party that sent its cabinet minister to escort terrorists to Kadahar.Does anybody remember all tehse things?..And Congresss has more nationalist trait than Sanghis who were anti-freedom during Gandhi's freedom movement.You can call them traitors!

laughable argument by AK Singh by Anil Patel on 20 Mar 2009

Anand is right while AK Singh is simply using personal attacks on Gandhi family. Varun getting caught has nothing to do with Rahul, etc. So accept the fact that Varun did the illegal thing. Also, how is it ok fpr Varun to be in politics if you so much against the dynastic politics?

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